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Old 08-13-2008, 03:42 AM
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Set 'em up Shirley!
Does work? Is it worth it/
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Old 08-13-2008, 04:02 AM
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Paned wrote:
> Set 'em up Shirley!
> Does work? Is it worth it/


Why do you think you need it?

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Old 08-13-2008, 04:39 AM
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"Paned" wrote ...
> Set 'em up Shirley!
> Does work? Is it worth it/


Yes, if applied correctly. No, not IMO. There are better products
available.


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Old 08-13-2008, 05:21 AM
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"Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Set 'em up Shirley!
> Does work? Is it worth it/
> Paned
>


I have lined many tanks and used several different products. Do yourself a
favor and use Red-Kote, I have had great success with it.

http://www.4secondsflat.com/Fuel_Tank_Sealer.html

kgdb



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Old 08-13-2008, 11:20 AM
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"John" <nohj@droffats.ten> wrote in message
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> Paned wrote:
>> Set 'em up Shirley!
>> Does work? Is it worth it/

>
> Why do you think you need it?

got rusty flakes in the tank, they were stored for quite a while.
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:02 PM
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"Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Set 'em up Shirley!
> Does work? Is it worth it/
> Paned
>


i have seen a lot of really messed up fuel systems from kreem. don't know
if it is the product or the people who applied its fault. if you actually
need to line an old tank then i recommend Por 15. it is good stuff. now
tell us why you want to line your tank...
michael



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Old 08-13-2008, 05:43 PM
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kgdb wrote:

> "Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:48a24a00$0$5973$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>Set 'em up Shirley!
>>Does work? Is it worth it/
>>Paned
>>

>
>
> I have lined many tanks and used several different products. Do yourself a
> favor and use Red-Kote, I have had great success with it.
>
> http://www.4secondsflat.com/Fuel_Tank_Sealer.html


I hope so.
Having never heard of it before, I went to that web site to learn more
about it.
I was rather corn-fuzed when it said:

"RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "


Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"

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Old 08-13-2008, 06:16 PM
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"Kerry Ladd" <Gus@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
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> kgdb wrote:
>
>> "Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:48a24a00$0$5973$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>>Set 'em up Shirley!
>>>Does work? Is it worth it/
>>>Paned
>>>

>>
>>
>> I have lined many tanks and used several different products. Do yourself
>> a favor and use Red-Kote, I have had great success with it.
>>
>> http://www.4secondsflat.com/Fuel_Tank_Sealer.html

>
> I hope so.
> Having never heard of it before, I went to that web site to learn more
> about it.
> I was rather corn-fuzed when it said:
>
> "RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
> ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "
>
>
> Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"


Nothing is gasoline proof when it goes boom.

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Old 08-13-2008, 07:13 PM
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BoboTWG wrote:

> "Kerry Ladd" <Gus@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> news:48a30f3b$0$20903$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
>>kgdb wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:48a24a00$0$5973$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshos ting.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Set 'em up Shirley!
>>>>Does work? Is it worth it/
>>>>Paned
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I have lined many tanks and used several different products. Do yourself
>>>a favor and use Red-Kote, I have had great success with it.
>>>
>>>http://www.4secondsflat.com/Fuel_Tank_Sealer.html

>>
>>I hope so.
>> Having never heard of it before, I went to that web site to learn more
>>about it.
>> I was rather corn-fuzed when it said:
>>
>>"RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
>>ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "
>>
>>
>>Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"


> Nothing is gasoline proof when it goes boom.


Well, yer NOT supposed to use a lit match for lighting so as to inspect
a tank filled with gasoline, after it's been coated with whatever.

Allow me to enlighten all about a certain fact... A gasoline tank that
needs to be "coated" on the inside with a substance, and filled
constantly with gasoline... said coating had best be gasoline PROOF!


Was I the only one that saw the irony in the wording?







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Old 08-13-2008, 08:22 PM
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"Kerry Ladd" <Gus@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
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> BoboTWG wrote:
>
>>>"RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
>>>ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "
>>>
>>>
>>>Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"

>
>> Nothing is gasoline proof when it goes boom.

>
> Well, yer NOT supposed to use a lit match for lighting so as to inspect a
> tank filled with gasoline, after it's been coated with whatever.
>
> Allow me to enlighten all about a certain fact... A gasoline tank that
> needs to be "coated" on the inside with a substance, and filled constantly
> with gasoline... said coating had best be gasoline PROOF!
>
>
> Was I the only one that saw the irony in the wording?
>

Yeah. I was just havin' fun. Have a drink on me.

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Old 08-13-2008, 08:28 PM
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BoboTWG wrote:
> "Kerry Ladd" <Gus@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> news:48a3246c$0$29510$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
>>BoboTWG wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>"RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
>>>>ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"

>>
>>>Nothing is gasoline proof when it goes boom.

>>
>>Well, yer NOT supposed to use a lit match for lighting so as to inspect a
>>tank filled with gasoline, after it's been coated with whatever.
>>
>>Allow me to enlighten all about a certain fact... A gasoline tank that
>>needs to be "coated" on the inside with a substance, and filled constantly
>>with gasoline... said coating had best be gasoline PROOF!
>>
>>
>>Was I the only one that saw the irony in the wording?
>>

>
> Yeah. I was just havin' fun. Have a drink on me.


I laughed!
I giggled!


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Old 08-14-2008, 12:26 AM
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"Kerry Ladd" <Gus@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
news:48a30f3b$0$20903$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> kgdb wrote:
>
>> "Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:48a24a00$0$5973$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>>Set 'em up Shirley!
>>>Does work? Is it worth it/
>>>Paned
>>>

>>
>>
>> I have lined many tanks and used several different products. Do yourself
>> a favor and use Red-Kote, I have had great success with it.
>>
>> http://www.4secondsflat.com/Fuel_Tank_Sealer.html

>
> I hope so.
> Having never heard of it before, I went to that web site to learn more
> about it.
> I was rather corn-fuzed when it said:
>
> "RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
> ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "
>
>
> Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"


Well decipher that anyway you wish but it is a very good product that I have
used many times and have never had a failure or a install problem. Many
professional places that apply liners also use Red-Kote. Having used pretty
much every brand out there I am sticking with Red-Kote.

kgdb



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Old 08-14-2008, 01:22 AM
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such as?
paned

"hawgeye" <hawgeye96@ATTITUDEcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Paned" wrote ...
>> Set 'em up Shirley!
>> Does work? Is it worth it/

>
> Yes, if applied correctly. No, not IMO. There are better products
> available.
>
>
> --
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Old 08-14-2008, 01:26 AM
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kgdb wrote:
> "Kerry Ladd" <Gus@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
> news:48a30f3b$0$20903$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
>>kgdb wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:48a24a00$0$5973$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshos ting.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Set 'em up Shirley!
>>>>Does work? Is it worth it/
>>>>Paned
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I have lined many tanks and used several different products. Do yourself
>>>a favor and use Red-Kote, I have had great success with it.
>>>
>>>http://www.4secondsflat.com/Fuel_Tank_Sealer.html

>>
>>I hope so.
>> Having never heard of it before, I went to that web site to learn more
>>about it.
>> I was rather corn-fuzed when it said:
>>
>>"RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
>>ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "
>>
>>
>>Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"

>
>
> Well decipher that anyway you wish but it is a very good product that I have
> used many times and have never had a failure or a install problem. Many
> professional places that apply liners also use Red-Kote. Having used pretty
> much every brand out there I am sticking with Red-Kote.


No problem's here.
I was just noticing the wording they used that seemed odd!

I used "Kreem" a few times, and no, I would NOT recomend it.
Por-15? Sure as shit!
Bullet proof stuff!

Regarding "red-coat", I have not used or seen in it my 25+ years of
painting professionaly... so I don't know about it.

I just wish they worded it better!

That's all I was saying... OK?




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Old 08-14-2008, 01:31 AM
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The tanks (od harley 2 piece) have been in storage for awhile and have rust
flakes in them
paned
"John" <nohj@droffats.ten> wrote in message
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> Paned wrote:
>> Set 'em up Shirley!
>> Does work? Is it worth it/

>
> Why do you think you need it?




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Old 08-14-2008, 03:13 AM
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>>
>>
>> Well decipher that anyway you wish but it is a very good product that I
>> have used many times and have never had a failure or a install problem.
>> Many professional places that apply liners also use Red-Kote. Having used
>> pretty much every brand out there I am sticking with Red-Kote.

>
> No problem's here.
> I was just noticing the wording they used that seemed odd!
>
> I used "Kreem" a few times, and no, I would NOT recomend it.
> Por-15? Sure as shit!
> Bullet proof stuff!
>
> Regarding "red-coat", I have not used or seen in it my 25+ years of
> painting professionaly... so I don't know about it.
>
> I just wish they worded it better!
>
> That's all I was saying... OK?
>
>
>



Ya man, all is Groovy here. Give it a shot next time you have to line a
tank.

kgdb



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Old 08-14-2008, 12:56 PM
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On Aug 12, 10:42*pm, "Paned" <ehenni...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Set 'em up Shirley!
> Does work? Is it worth it/
> Paned


Kreem used to work great, probably still would if gas hadn't changed
formulas. But it did. The new stuff is MUCH harder on everything, and
WILL eat Kreem eventually. Por15 works great...for now. But to be
honest, unless you've got a leak, you don't need a liner. Just use
something like Marine Clean or similar and a box of BB's or new small
nuts to get all the old rust out, then keep 'em filled with gas and
you'll be just fine...

-Kuda

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Old 08-14-2008, 05:07 PM
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On 2008-08-13 09:43:11 -0700, Kerry Ladd <Gus@Bass.gov.> said:

> kgdb wrote:
>
>> "Paned" <ehenning1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:48a24a00$0$5973$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>> Set 'em up Shirley!
>>> Does work? Is it worth it/
>>> Paned
>>>

>>
>>
>> I have lined many tanks and used several different products. Do
>> yourself a favor and use Red-Kote, I have had great success with it.
>>
>> http://www.4secondsflat.com/Fuel_Tank_Sealer.html

>
> I hope so.
> Having never heard of it before, I went to that web site to learn
> more about it.
> I was rather corn-fuzed when it said:
>
> "RED-KOTE ® FUEL TANK LINER
> ALCOHOL - GASOLINE RESISTANT "
>
>
> Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"


Translation: Experimental Temporary Chemical Band-aid that sometimes
plugs holes but mostly plugs your carb and crossover line.

Buy a new tank, ya silly fucks!

--
Ryder Rick
<hates what some painters do to tanks, but it's job security>


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Old 08-14-2008, 06:25 PM
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>>
>>
>> Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"

>
> Translation: Experimental Temporary Chemical Band-aid that sometimes plugs
> holes but mostly plugs your carb and crossover line.
>
> Buy a new tank, ya silly fucks!
>
> --
> Ryder Rick
> <hates what some painters do to tanks, but it's job security>
>


LOL ........and what do you do to a tank that you have modified, stretched,
widened etc or a tank you have made from scratch???

It has to be lined.


kgdb




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Old 08-14-2008, 09:01 PM
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On 2008-08-14 10:25:53 -0700, "kgdb" <chopper@chopper.com> said:

>
>>>
>>>
>>> Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"

>>
>> Translation: Experimental Temporary Chemical Band-aid that sometimes plugs
>> holes but mostly plugs your carb and crossover line.
>>
>> Buy a new tank, ya silly fucks!
>>
>> --
>> Ryder Rick
>> <hates what some painters do to tanks, but it's job security>
>>

>
> LOL ........and what do you do to a tank that you have modified, stretched,
> widened etc or a tank you have made from scratch???
>
> It has to be lined.
>
>
> kgdb


Pressure test it prior to painting and weld up the holes.......
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Old 08-14-2008, 09:05 PM
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kgdb wrote:

>>>
>>>Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"

>>
>>Translation: Experimental Temporary Chemical Band-aid that sometimes plugs
>>holes but mostly plugs your carb and crossover line.
>>
>>Buy a new tank, ya silly fucks!
>>
>>--
>>Ryder Rick
>><hates what some painters do to tanks, but it's job security>
>>

>
> LOL ........and what do you do to a tank that you have modified, stretched,
> widened etc or a tank you have made from scratch???
>
> It has to be lined.


WRONG!

It has to be PRESSURE TESTED first!

Plastic Goops that you pour in, won't cure a severe problem... or leak!

ANYBODY that tells you otherwise is a fucked up mental midget like moron!

Again, YOU don't know what those "coatings" are truly designed for.

You asked, and now YOU tell others what that crap is supposed to accomplish?


EGADS!





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Old 08-14-2008, 09:50 PM
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Ryder Rick wrote:
> On 2008-08-14 10:25:53 -0700, "kgdb" <chopper@chopper.com> said:
>
>>


>> It has to be lined.


>> kgdb

>
>
> Pressure test it prior to painting and weld up the holes.......


He does NOT want to learn.

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"Kerry Ladd" <Gus@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
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> kgdb wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>Only "resistant" instead of "proof?"
>>>
>>>Translation: Experimental Temporary Chemical Band-aid that sometimes
>>>plugs holes but mostly plugs your carb and crossover line.
>>>
>>>Buy a new tank, ya silly fucks!
>>>
>>>--
>>>Ryder Rick
>>><hates what some painters do to tanks, but it's job security>
>>>

>>
>> LOL ........and what do you do to a tank that you have modified,
>> stretched, widened etc or a tank you have made from scratch???
>>
>> It has to be lined.

>
> WRONG!
>
> It has to be PRESSURE TESTED first!
>
> Plastic Goops that you pour in, won't cure a severe problem... or leak!
>
> ANYBODY that tells you otherwise is a fucked up mental midget like moron!
>
> Again, YOU don't know what those "coatings" are truly designed for.
>
> You asked, and now YOU tell others what that crap is supposed to
> accomplish?
>
>
> EGADS!


WTF we dealing with here a bunch of bolt on mechanics? Dont you guys do any
serious fabricating?
I have made several tanks from scratch and reshaped many others and I have
been doing this well over 30 years.
All tig welded and pressure tested and then, Yes you guessed
it....................LINED! One would be a total fool not to line a tank
that has had repairs and welds!
I am in the process of doing a restoration and the tank has been sitting
over 60 yrs. It was very built up inside with rust and what not and many
areas were very thin. I repaired the tank and did several chemical cleans
and the inside while clean now is very thin. You cannot buy this tank and if
you can get one it would probably be in the same condition, BINGO, time to
line it!! nuff said.

kgdb




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Old 08-15-2008, 09:39 PM
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Paned wrote:
> "John" <nohj@droffats.ten> wrote in message
> news:irOdnVjNAIQg0z_VnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d@supernews.co m...
>> Paned wrote:
>>> Set 'em up Shirley!
>>> Does work? Is it worth it/

>> Why do you think you need it?

> got rusty flakes in the tank, they were stored for quite a while.
> paned


Put a fistful of nuts and bolts in the tank along with a couple quarts
of water and agitate over a couple beers. Drain. Optionally you can also
add an acid rince. I use the stuff they clean dairy pipes (maybe $4 a
gallon). Put in sun to dry completely. Then just fill the tank and be
happy. When you store it, be sure to store it with a full tank. Worked
for me forever.

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Old 08-15-2008, 09:40 PM
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Paned wrote:
> The tanks (od harley 2 piece) have been in storage for awhile and have rust
> flakes in them


Yup. Been there. Got a shed full of old 45 tanks for $15 a set. Did the
shakey thing with nuts and bolts and everything was fine.

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Old 08-16-2008, 06:13 PM
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John wrote:
> Paned wrote:
>> The tanks (od harley 2 piece) have been in storage for awhile and have
>> rust flakes in them

>
> Yup. Been there. Got a shed full of old 45 tanks for $15 a set. Did the
> shakey thing with nuts and bolts and everything was fine.


Hmm. These the 45 tanks with the oil/gas in one side and gas in the other?

Got any for sale?
--
spunky hussein Don'tHaveMyTankMountsWeldedOnYet tuna

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