has anyone used something like this?

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56

looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
many sq ft this will heat though


another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
about gas fumes and electricity

something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:42:16 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:

>has anyone used something like this?
>
>http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>
>looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
>we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
>many sq ft this will heat though
>
>another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
>about gas fumes and electricity
>
>something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
>http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57

You prolly ain't gonna like this, but tough shit <g>. I heat my shop
n' office with insulation and fluorescent lights. Lotsa insulation =
cheap heating costs. It's 75° inside and about 35° outside first
thing inna mornin' these days. Too warm inside actually. Six 8'
light bulbs inna office... th' heat comes from th' ballasts, methinks.

Snarl

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:03 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:42:16 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>
>>has anyone used something like this?
>>
>>http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>>
>>looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
>>we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
>>many sq ft this will heat though
>>
>>another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
>>about gas fumes and electricity
>>
>>something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
>>http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57
>
>You prolly ain't gonna like this, but tough shit <g>. I heat my shop
>n' office with insulation and fluorescent lights. Lotsa insulation =
>cheap heating costs. It's 75° inside and about 35° outside first
>thing inna mornin' these days. Too warm inside actually. Six 8'
>light bulbs inna office... th' heat comes from th' ballasts, methinks.

I have 11 four footers in there now, outside walls are insulated (6")
concrete walls are underground, I'd love to see 70 degrees in there

>
>Snarl

In article <qkr1g49jhn5913pfa19ttj4nnutcj38vk5@4ax.com>,
me@nospam.com says...
>
>
> has anyone used something like this?
>
> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>
> looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
> we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
> many sq ft this will heat though
>
>
> another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
> about gas fumes and electricity

Being a cheap prick, when it's cold, I usually work in the garage
when the wife's doing the laundry. Plenty of heat from the dryer.

If I was worried about igniting fumes I'd probably look at

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16896101132

>
> something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
> http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57
>

A round of Irish coffee for those that need a warm up, or whatever
they prefer.

Bill
--
GMail, Google Goobers and Web to Usenet gateway users.
This century's answers to AOL and WebTV.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:13:25 -0700, Bill
<spamtrap@tinlc.lumbercartel.com> wrote:

> A round of Irish coffee for those that need a warm up, or whatever
>they prefer.

I'll have one of those, thanks. Skip the ridiculous whipped cream and
sugar stuff.

Oh, on topic. Andrzej has a ginormous industrial heater thingy in
Garage Mahal North. It hangs from the ceiling and is powered by LP.
There's a thermostat and I have no idea what brand or kind of heater
it is, it was here when we moved in. (But I can probably find out.) It
works really, really well. Keeps the 30' x 40' garage at 51 degrees
all winter. Warms up quickly when we want to go throw darts or watch
scummy biker movies and it's -30c outside. (Providing we can trudge
through the 6 foot snow drifts and actually find the place at the
bottom of the driveway.)

Oh, how I'm looking forward to winter. <sigh> More Irish coffee,
please.

Dana
Bitch 16 Wench 22 BS 23 BOTY VI ret.
'05 FLHRSI "Belle"
'03 FLHTCUI

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:58:54 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:03 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:42:16 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>>
>>>has anyone used something like this?
>>>
>>>http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>>>
>>>looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
>>>we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
>>>many sq ft this will heat though
>>>
>>>another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
>>>about gas fumes and electricity
>>>
>>>something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
>>>http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57
>>
>>You prolly ain't gonna like this, but tough shit <g>. I heat my shop
>>n' office with insulation and fluorescent lights. Lotsa insulation =
>>cheap heating costs. It's 75° inside and about 35° outside first
>>thing inna mornin' these days. Too warm inside actually. Six 8'
>>light bulbs inna office... th' heat comes from th' ballasts, methinks.
>
>I have 11 four footers in there now, outside walls are insulated (6")
>concrete walls are underground, I'd love to see 70 degrees in there

It's not how many lights ya have, it's what kind that makes th'
difference. Th' expensive kind with cold start ballasts put out way
more heat. Plus I have 110 watt 8' bulbs... 26 of 'em and gonna add
12 more. Actually, it gets too hot in here if I have 'em all on at
th' same time.

My power bill is around $30-75 per mo., depending on th' time of year.
It's always at least 70° in here. I like to keep it real close to
that alla time since I've got th' lathe and an antique upright grand
piano in here. I think I paid around $75.00 per light fixture which
are dual light, 8'ers. Th' bulbs are kinda spendy, but there's some
in here that have been on 24/7/365 for four years now.

Snarl... bright n' warm

<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qkr1g49jhn5913pfa19ttj4nnutcj38vk5@4ax.com...
>
>
> has anyone used something like this?
>
> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>
> looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
> we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
> many sq ft this will heat though
>
>
> another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
> about gas fumes and electricity
>
> something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
> http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57
>
>
Not gonna do much! 750 watts x 3.41 BTU per watt = 2,550 BTU A $30 heater
from Wal-Mart will do allot more! If those glowing elements bug ya, spend a
few dollars more and get a oil filled heater, maybe $60.

--
PoorUB
'05 Ultra Classic

On Oct 23, 2:42*pm, m...@nospam.com wrote:
> has anyone used something like this?
>
> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>
> looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
> we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
> many sq ft this will heat though
>
> another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
> about gas fumes and electricity
>
> something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57



My experience with a radiant heater was that it was great as long as I
was standing in front of it, but didn't heat the air very well. YMMV.

I'm looking into a gas space heater myself (got the garage plumbed for
natural gas already to feed the furnace and water heater). I bought
K1 kerosene for my indoor unit this week...over $10. a gallon. :-(

Hoppy
BS7 AH85 SENS SLOB16

<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qkr1g49jhn5913pfa19ttj4nnutcj38vk5@4ax.com...

> has anyone used something like this?

> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56

> looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
> we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
> many sq ft this will heat though

> another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
> about gas fumes and electricity

> something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
> http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57

Watts is watts.

In place of a $270 750 watt panel, for perhaps a $40 expense one could put
up three 250 watt radiant heat lamps in track lighting spot fixtures, and
the lamps will beam the heat better to where you want it to be, which is
probably also where you want the light. True, the lamps will eventually
burn out and need replacement but that's peanuts compared to what you'd save
on fixtures. Your track and fixtures need to be rated high enough for the
power they will carry. If you can't find high enough rated fixtures, use
more smaller bulbs. 150 watt halogens are nice. Compact fluorescent
varieties will not help you with the heat, but could be substituted in the
summer when all you want is light.

On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:56:49 -0500, "HiTech RedNeck"
<hitechCOLOR-OF-BLOODneck@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Watts is watts.
>
>In place of a $270 750 watt panel, for perhaps a $40 expense one could put
>up three 250 watt radiant heat lamps in track lighting spot fixtures, and
>the lamps will beam the heat better to where you want it to be, which is
>probably also where you want the light. True, the lamps will eventually
>burn out and need replacement but that's peanuts compared to what you'd save
>on fixtures. Your track and fixtures need to be rated high enough for the
>power they will carry. If you can't find high enough rated fixtures, use
>more smaller bulbs. 150 watt halogens are nice. Compact fluorescent
>varieties will not help you with the heat, but could be substituted in the
>summer when all you want is light.


thanks, that second one is fan forced

<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> has anyone used something like this?
>
> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>
> looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
> we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
> many sq ft this will heat though
>
>
> another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
> about gas fumes and electricity
>
> something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
> http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57
>
>

Second one might do the job. the first one will hardly heat a small
bathroom. I've taken several out of bathrooms during a remodel and a simple
bath heater does a better job.

I heat a 24 x 50 with a second hand wall furnace. It's at 55 all the time
and up to 65 depending on what I'm doing. With propane at $2.10 a gallon it
runs between $100 and $200 a year. It's the air conditioning in the summer
that costs:>)

Dale R

snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:58:54 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:03 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:42:16 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>has anyone used something like this?
> >>>
> >>>http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
> >>>
> >>>looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
> >>>we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
> >>>many sq ft this will heat though
> >>>
> >>>another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
> >>>about gas fumes and electricity
> >>>
> >>>something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
> >>>http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57
> >>
> >>You prolly ain't gonna like this, but tough shit <g>. I heat my shop
> >>n' office with insulation and fluorescent lights. Lotsa insulation =
> >>cheap heating costs. It's 75° inside and about 35° outside first
> >>thing inna mornin' these days. Too warm inside actually. Six 8'
> >>light bulbs inna office... th' heat comes from th' ballasts, methinks.
> >
> >I have 11 four footers in there now, outside walls are insulated (6")
> >concrete walls are underground, I'd love to see 70 degrees in there
>
> It's not how many lights ya have, it's what kind that makes th'
> difference. Th' expensive kind with cold start ballasts put out way
> more heat. Plus I have 110 watt 8' bulbs... 26 of 'em and gonna add
> 12 more. Actually, it gets too hot in here if I have 'em all on at
> th' same time.
>
> My power bill is around $30-75 per mo., depending on th' time of year.
> It's always at least 70° in here. I like to keep it real close to
> that alla time since I've got th' lathe and an antique upright grand
> piano in here. I think I paid around $75.00 per light fixture which
> are dual light, 8'ers. Th' bulbs are kinda spendy, but there's some
> in here that have been on 24/7/365 for four years now.
>
> Snarl... bright n' warm


Now I know why my shop is warm every morning when I get there. I've got
a bunch of those "spendy" fuckers too. Worth every penny just for the
reliability over the regular ones.




nobody #1

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:33:05 -0400, nobody #1 <rnddmauck@comcast.net>
wrote:

>snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:58:54 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:39:03 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:42:16 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>has anyone used something like this?
>> >>>
>> >>>http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/2YU56
>> >>>
>> >>>looks like it might be pretty nice and easy install and look good if
>> >>>we go to a drop ceiling in the dungeon, I'm not sure how to tell how
>> >>>many sq ft this will heat though
>> >>>
>> >>>another I'm looking at is suspended electric heaters, but I worry
>> >>>about gas fumes and electricity
>> >>>
>> >>>something like this Dayton, (takes a moment to load)
>> >>>http://tinyurl.com/6rlb57
>> >>
>> >>You prolly ain't gonna like this, but tough shit <g>. I heat my shop
>> >>n' office with insulation and fluorescent lights. Lotsa insulation =
>> >>cheap heating costs. It's 75° inside and about 35° outside first
>> >>thing inna mornin' these days. Too warm inside actually. Six 8'
>> >>light bulbs inna office... th' heat comes from th' ballasts, methinks.
>> >
>> >I have 11 four footers in there now, outside walls are insulated (6")
>> >concrete walls are underground, I'd love to see 70 degrees in there
>>
>> It's not how many lights ya have, it's what kind that makes th'
>> difference. Th' expensive kind with cold start ballasts put out way
>> more heat. Plus I have 110 watt 8' bulbs... 26 of 'em and gonna add
>> 12 more. Actually, it gets too hot in here if I have 'em all on at
>> th' same time.
>>
>> My power bill is around $30-75 per mo., depending on th' time of year.
>> It's always at least 70° in here. I like to keep it real close to
>> that alla time since I've got th' lathe and an antique upright grand
>> piano in here. I think I paid around $75.00 per light fixture which
>> are dual light, 8'ers. Th' bulbs are kinda spendy, but there's some
>> in here that have been on 24/7/365 for four years now.
>>
>> Snarl... bright n' warm
>
> Now I know why my shop is warm every morning when I get there. I've got
>a bunch of those "spendy" fuckers too. Worth every penny just for the
>reliability over the regular ones.

I only have a 10' high ceiling, guessin' yers is higher for car lifts?
Throw a couple/four ceiling fans up there and it'll be even warmer.
Th' heats already in there, might as well blow it down where ya need
it.

Heh, you like to tinker, right? Had a thought about milling slots in
th' end cover plates and wiring inna couple of computer fans to blow
th' air by th' ballasts and out th' other end of th' fixtures. Might
allow th' ballasts to run cooler, last longer, and push a little more
heat out.

Snarl... thinks about that kinda shit

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:49:16 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>
>Heh, you like to tinker, right? Had a thought about milling slots in
>th' end cover plates and wiring inna couple of computer fans to blow
>th' air by th' ballasts and out th' other end of th' fixtures. Might
>allow th' ballasts to run cooler, last longer, and push a little more
>heat out.
>
>Snarl... thinks about that kinda shit


you just want to do some milling, there are easier/faster ways to add
the holes ya know...................

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:24 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:49:16 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>
>>Heh, you like to tinker, right? Had a thought about milling slots in
>>th' end cover plates and wiring inna couple of computer fans to blow
>>th' air by th' ballasts and out th' other end of th' fixtures. Might
>>allow th' ballasts to run cooler, last longer, and push a little more
>>heat out.
>>
>>Snarl... thinks about that kinda shit
>
>you just want to do some milling, there are easier/faster ways to add
>the holes ya know...................

Now, now, now, these are not th' days to be wastin' ammo.

Snarl... waste not, want not

<snarl@trippin.com> wrote in message
news:9tmhg4pcngvfhcd46ejktparbvm2ndu14e@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:24 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:49:16 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>>
>>>Heh, you like to tinker, right? Had a thought about milling slots in
>>>th' end cover plates and wiring inna couple of computer fans to blow
>>>th' air by th' ballasts and out th' other end of th' fixtures. Might
>>>allow th' ballasts to run cooler, last longer, and push a little more
>>>heat out.
>>>
>>>Snarl... thinks about that kinda shit
>>
>>you just want to do some milling, there are easier/faster ways to add
>>the holes ya know...................
>
> Now, now, now, these are not th' days to be wastin' ammo.
>
> Snarl... waste not, want not
>


Funny that. I just took inventory yesterday afternoon. Guess I gotta go
buy some 12 ga this weekend. Maybe another couple of boxes of .45 just for
shits and giggles.

--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC 'Pearl'
'87 FLTC 'Fugly'
'61 F-100
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, SLOB#13, MAMBM

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:18:37 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:24 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:49:16 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>>
>>>Heh, you like to tinker, right? Had a thought about milling slots in
>>>th' end cover plates and wiring inna couple of computer fans to blow
>>>th' air by th' ballasts and out th' other end of th' fixtures. Might
>>>allow th' ballasts to run cooler, last longer, and push a little more
>>>heat out.
>>>
>>>Snarl... thinks about that kinda shit
>>
>>you just want to do some milling, there are easier/faster ways to add
>>the holes ya know...................
>
>Now, now, now, these are not th' days to be wastin' ammo.
<grin>

reload m' friend reload!
>Snarl... waste not, want not

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:54:12 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:18:37 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:24 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:49:16 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Heh, you like to tinker, right? Had a thought about milling slots in
>>>>th' end cover plates and wiring inna couple of computer fans to blow
>>>>th' air by th' ballasts and out th' other end of th' fixtures. Might
>>>>allow th' ballasts to run cooler, last longer, and push a little more
>>>>heat out.
>>>>
>>>>Snarl... thinks about that kinda shit
>>>
>>>you just want to do some milling, there are easier/faster ways to add
>>>the holes ya know...................
>>
>>Now, now, now, these are not th' days to be wastin' ammo.
>
><grin>
>
>reload m' friend reload!

I know a guy...

Been seein' a lot of "sold out" or "not in stock" lately on various
online ammo sources. Wonder if any politicians are payin' attention
to th' fact that Americans are buyin' guns n' ammo in record amounts
right now <g>. Perhaps they should keep that in mind.

Snarl... I'm just sayin'...

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:47:21 -0500, "Old Crow"
<walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote:

><snarl@trippin.com> wrote in message
>news:9tmhg4pcngvfhcd46ejktparbvm2ndu14e@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:24 -0400, me@nospam.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:49:16 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Heh, you like to tinker, right? Had a thought about milling slots in
>>>>th' end cover plates and wiring inna couple of computer fans to blow
>>>>th' air by th' ballasts and out th' other end of th' fixtures. Might
>>>>allow th' ballasts to run cooler, last longer, and push a little more
>>>>heat out.
>>>>
>>>>Snarl... thinks about that kinda shit
>>>
>>>you just want to do some milling, there are easier/faster ways to add
>>>the holes ya know...................
>>
>> Now, now, now, these are not th' days to be wastin' ammo.
>>
>> Snarl... waste not, want not
>
>Funny that. I just took inventory yesterday afternoon. Guess I gotta go
>buy some 12 ga this weekend. Maybe another couple of boxes of .45 just for
>shits and giggles.

www.sportsmansguide.com/ had some pretty good prices on 12 ga last
week. If ya buy enough anually, th' club membership is worth th'
price of admission... and then some.

Snarl