Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
Portland?

Ryder Rick wrote:
> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
> Portland?

Check the yellow pages for a ROBUST one!

ThreeLegends <SMV@bass.gov.> wrote:
> Ryder Rick wrote:
>> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>> Portland?

> Check the yellow pages for a ROBUST one!

I knew that one was coming.

Pan, have a round on the house, Shirley.

--
George BS235
Owner, rmh VB&G

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:43 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>Portland?

Unfortunately, no. There's only one guy around th' PNW who *knows*
H-D frames, has th' jigs n' tools, and is th' fookin' bomb. Finding
him is a problem as he goes between Seattle n' Eastern WA. Finding
him not having a year long waiting list is even harder.

Hang on, I'll see what I can find out...

Heh, only took two phone calls. Now I gotta wait for him to call
back... he's drivin' a motorhome and doesn't wanna multi-task <g>.
What kind of frame work ya need done? He specializes in restoring
Flatty, Knuck n' Pan frames, but can do damn near anything H-D
related.

Oh, and it sounds like he's in th' south King County area (Seattle)
now.

Snarl

George Pollard wrote:

> ThreeLegends <SMV@bass.gov.> wrote:
>
>>Ryder Rick wrote:
>>
>>>Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>>>Portland?
>
>
>>Check the yellow pages for a ROBUST one!
>
>
> I knew that one was coming.
>
> Pan, have a round on the house, Shirley.

Urp!

Pan-thinking ahead-head

snarl@trippin.com wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:43 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>> Portland?
>
> Unfortunately, no. There's only one guy around th' PNW who *knows*
> H-D frames, has th' jigs n' tools, and is th' fookin' bomb. Finding
> him is a problem as he goes between Seattle n' Eastern WA. Finding
> him not having a year long waiting list is even harder.
>
> Hang on, I'll see what I can find out...
>
> Heh, only took two phone calls. Now I gotta wait for him to call
> back... he's drivin' a motorhome and doesn't wanna multi-task <g>.
> What kind of frame work ya need done? He specializes in restoring
> Flatty, Knuck n' Pan frames, but can do damn near anything H-D
> related.
>
> Oh, and it sounds like he's in th' south King County area (Seattle)
> now.
>
> Snarl
>


It's a pan frame.
I'm tryin to talk the guy into a new frame as his is titled on the motor
# and this frame is a freaking pretzel. I am not sure there is a
straight tube on the frame. It may turn the stomach of a real frame guy!

Anyway it does not track straight, my framing square and calibrated
micrometer eyeball tells me the front wheel is about 1/2"+ off center.
So the neck is twisted and maybe pushed back.

"ThreeLegends" <SMV@Bass.gov.> wrote in message
news:48f90684$0$5652$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> George Pollard wrote:
>
>> ThreeLegends <SMV@bass.gov.> wrote:
>>
>>>Ryder Rick wrote:
>>>
>>>>Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>>>>Portland?
>>
>>
>>>Check the yellow pages for a ROBUST one!
>>
>>
>> I knew that one was coming.
>>
>> Pan, have a round on the house, Shirley.
>
> Urp!
>
> Pan-thinking ahead-head

I'm just glad to see you're still paying attention.

Ryder Rick wrote:
> snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:43 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>>> Portland?
>>
>> Unfortunately, no. There's only one guy around th' PNW who *knows*
>> H-D frames, has th' jigs n' tools, and is th' fookin' bomb. Finding
>> him is a problem as he goes between Seattle n' Eastern WA. Finding
>> him not having a year long waiting list is even harder.
>> Hang on, I'll see what I can find out...
>> Heh, only took two phone calls. Now I gotta wait for him to call
>> back... he's drivin' a motorhome and doesn't wanna multi-task <g>.
>> What kind of frame work ya need done? He specializes in restoring
>> Flatty, Knuck n' Pan frames, but can do damn near anything H-D
>> related.
>>
>> Oh, and it sounds like he's in th' south King County area (Seattle)
>> now.
>>
>> Snarl
>>
>
>
> It's a pan frame.
> I'm tryin to talk the guy into a new frame as his is titled on the motor
> # and this frame is a freaking pretzel. I am not sure there is a
> straight tube on the frame. It may turn the stomach of a real frame guy!
>
> Anyway it does not track straight, my framing square and calibrated
> micrometer eyeball tells me the front wheel is about 1/2"+ off center.
> So the neck is twisted and maybe pushed back.

FYI Panhead Ric from whitetrash choppers just pointed me at Rudy
Chappelle's place in St Helens. Says he has a mondo frame jig.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:27:40 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
wrote:

>snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:43 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>>> Portland?
>>
>> Unfortunately, no. There's only one guy around th' PNW who *knows*
>> H-D frames, has th' jigs n' tools, and is th' fookin' bomb. Finding
>> him is a problem as he goes between Seattle n' Eastern WA. Finding
>> him not having a year long waiting list is even harder.
>>
>> Hang on, I'll see what I can find out...
>>
>> Heh, only took two phone calls. Now I gotta wait for him to call
>> back... he's drivin' a motorhome and doesn't wanna multi-task <g>.
>> What kind of frame work ya need done? He specializes in restoring
>> Flatty, Knuck n' Pan frames, but can do damn near anything H-D
>> related.
>>
>> Oh, and it sounds like he's in th' south King County area (Seattle)
>> now.
>
>It's a pan frame.
>I'm tryin to talk the guy into a new frame as his is titled on the motor
># and this frame is a freaking pretzel. I am not sure there is a
>straight tube on the frame. It may turn the stomach of a real frame guy!

Nah, he loves that shit. You should see some of his before/after
pics.

> Anyway it does not track straight, my framing square and calibrated
>micrometer eyeball tells me the front wheel is about 1/2"+ off center.
>So the neck is twisted and maybe pushed back.

Rick Heek had this guy restore his '55 Pan frame, that thing was truly
an abortion. It was a thing of beauty and flawless after he worked
his magic. I've had him fix a couple of Knuck frames and am bringin'
him my '37 frame pretty soon.

Snarl

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:12:44 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Ryder Rick wrote:
>> snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:43 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>>>> Portland?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, no. There's only one guy around th' PNW who *knows*
>>> H-D frames, has th' jigs n' tools, and is th' fookin' bomb. Finding
>>> him is a problem as he goes between Seattle n' Eastern WA. Finding
>>> him not having a year long waiting list is even harder.
>>> Hang on, I'll see what I can find out...
>>> Heh, only took two phone calls. Now I gotta wait for him to call
>>> back... he's drivin' a motorhome and doesn't wanna multi-task <g>.
>>> What kind of frame work ya need done? He specializes in restoring
>>> Flatty, Knuck n' Pan frames, but can do damn near anything H-D
>>> related.
>>>
>>> Oh, and it sounds like he's in th' south King County area (Seattle)
>>> now.
>>
>> It's a pan frame.
>> I'm tryin to talk the guy into a new frame as his is titled on the motor
>> # and this frame is a freaking pretzel. I am not sure there is a
>> straight tube on the frame. It may turn the stomach of a real frame guy!
>>
>> Anyway it does not track straight, my framing square and calibrated
>> micrometer eyeball tells me the front wheel is about 1/2"+ off center.
>> So the neck is twisted and maybe pushed back.
>
>FYI Panhead Ric from whitetrash choppers just pointed me at Rudy
>Chappelle's place in St Helens. Says he has a mondo frame jig.

Lotsa guys have frame jigs... I only know of one guy who *really*
knows how to use it. Wasco Frames is th' name of his bidness. All of
th' local old school guys know that he's th' only guy to go to if ya
want it done right.

Snarl... spendy, but worth every cent

snarl@trippin.com wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:27:40 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:43 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>>>> Portland?
>>> Unfortunately, no. There's only one guy around th' PNW who *knows*
>>> H-D frames, has th' jigs n' tools, and is th' fookin' bomb. Finding
>>> him is a problem as he goes between Seattle n' Eastern WA. Finding
>>> him not having a year long waiting list is even harder.
>>>
>>> Hang on, I'll see what I can find out...
>>>
>>> Heh, only took two phone calls. Now I gotta wait for him to call
>>> back... he's drivin' a motorhome and doesn't wanna multi-task <g>.
>>> What kind of frame work ya need done? He specializes in restoring
>>> Flatty, Knuck n' Pan frames, but can do damn near anything H-D
>>> related.
>>>
>>> Oh, and it sounds like he's in th' south King County area (Seattle)
>>> now.
>> It's a pan frame.
>> I'm tryin to talk the guy into a new frame as his is titled on the motor
>> # and this frame is a freaking pretzel. I am not sure there is a
>> straight tube on the frame. It may turn the stomach of a real frame guy!
>
> Nah, he loves that shit. You should see some of his before/after
> pics.
>
>> Anyway it does not track straight, my framing square and calibrated
>> micrometer eyeball tells me the front wheel is about 1/2"+ off center.
>> So the neck is twisted and maybe pushed back.
>
> Rick Heek had this guy restore his '55 Pan frame, that thing was truly
> an abortion. It was a thing of beauty and flawless after he worked
> his magic. I've had him fix a couple of Knuck frames and am bringin'
> him my '37 frame pretty soon.
>
> Snarl
>

Let me know, I'd like to at least bend his ear a bit and get a feel for
time and what he would charge. What did the heekster pay for his?

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:41:59 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
wrote:

>snarl@trippin.com wrote:

<schnipp>

>> Rick Heek had this guy restore his '55 Pan frame, that thing was truly
>> an abortion. It was a thing of beauty and flawless after he worked
>> his magic. I've had him fix a couple of Knuck frames and am bringin'
>> him my '37 frame pretty soon.
>
>Let me know, I'd like to at least bend his ear a bit and get a feel for
>time and what he would charge.

He's en route to AZ, wanted to get their motorhome down there before
th' snow flies. Said he'll be back around th' 1st of Nov. and would
call me to make arrangements to do mine. We could meet up there if ya
want.

>What did the heekster pay for his?

I don't recall exactly, hopefully he'll chime in here pretty soon.
But, I wanna say it was a skosh more'n buyin' a V-Twin repop.

My '37 is pretty straight, but it's got some wrong shit like th' tool
box mount is late 40's and th' tank mounts ain't right either.
Actually, I suspect this frame was a mid-late 40's that someone brazed
on a pre 40's neck casting. I ain't ever been a purist and don't
really care if it's incorrect, I just want th' tank tabs lined up
right and change th' tool box mount whilst we're in there <g>.

Snarl

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:41:59 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
wrote:

>snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:27:40 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> snarl@trippin.com wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:43 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frame shop recomendation in the Pacific North Wet? More specifically
>>>>> Portland?
>>>> Unfortunately, no. There's only one guy around th' PNW who *knows*
>>>> H-D frames, has th' jigs n' tools, and is th' fookin' bomb. Finding
>>>> him is a problem as he goes between Seattle n' Eastern WA. Finding
>>>> him not having a year long waiting list is even harder.
>>>>
>>>> Hang on, I'll see what I can find out...
>>>>
>>>> Heh, only took two phone calls. Now I gotta wait for him to call
>>>> back... he's drivin' a motorhome and doesn't wanna multi-task <g>.
>>>> What kind of frame work ya need done? He specializes in restoring
>>>> Flatty, Knuck n' Pan frames, but can do damn near anything H-D
>>>> related.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and it sounds like he's in th' south King County area (Seattle)
>>>> now.
>>> It's a pan frame.
>>> I'm tryin to talk the guy into a new frame as his is titled on the motor
>>> # and this frame is a freaking pretzel. I am not sure there is a
>>> straight tube on the frame. It may turn the stomach of a real frame guy!
>>
>> Nah, he loves that shit. You should see some of his before/after
>> pics.
>>
>>> Anyway it does not track straight, my framing square and calibrated
>>> micrometer eyeball tells me the front wheel is about 1/2"+ off center.
>>> So the neck is twisted and maybe pushed back.
>>
>> Rick Heek had this guy restore his '55 Pan frame, that thing was truly
>> an abortion. It was a thing of beauty and flawless after he worked
>> his magic. I've had him fix a couple of Knuck frames and am bringin'
>> him my '37 frame pretty soon.
>>
>> Snarl
>>
>
>Let me know, I'd like to at least bend his ear a bit and get a feel for
>time and what he would charge. What did the heekster pay for his?

The frame was a grotesque. Someone had taken a swingarm front, and
grafted a hardtail rear onto it. When Darwin took it apart, it had
fuckin' rebar in the downtubes and in the hardtail. All the bad
tubing was replaced, and sidecar loops, and all the little tabs and
castings were restored. The previous owned had munched the seat
plunger bushing area in the frame, and it was replaced by one from a
knuck frame. The only way anyone would ever know this, is if me or
Darwin told them.

It cost about $1900, not bad considering how incredibly munged the
frame actually was. About 9 years ago.

We talked while he had my frame, several times. Back in the day, he
chopped a lot of bikes. He felt that he had to make them right, and
he will not chop a stock frame any more. Besides, there are
aftermarket frames now that can be used. He knows the metallurgy, and
he can do anything with a frame that you can think of.

He told me of one bike that he fixed that had been folded in half. The
owner said that it rode better after it was repaired, than it did when
new.

Let me put it this way, having Darwin do your frame, is like having
Smokey Yunick do the motah in your cage.

He has a 53 Pan with the last set of HD Pan replacement cases. He
has extensively modified the heads, and the bike is capable of 200mph.

Little Hephaestus of the Okanogan.

There simply ain't none better.

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:46:05 -0500, heekster <heekster@iwxt.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:41:59 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>wrote:

<schnipp>

>>Let me know, I'd like to at least bend his ear a bit and get a feel for
>>time and what he would charge. What did the heekster pay for his?
>
>The frame was a grotesque. Someone had taken a swingarm front, and
>grafted a hardtail rear onto it. When Darwin took it apart, it had
>fuckin' rebar in the downtubes and in the hardtail. All the bad
>tubing was replaced, and sidecar loops, and all the little tabs and
>castings were restored. The previous owned had munched the seat
>plunger bushing area in the frame, and it was replaced by one from a
>knuck frame. The only way anyone would ever know this, is if me or
>Darwin told them.
>
>It cost about $1900, not bad considering how incredibly munged the
>frame actually was. About 9 years ago.
>
>We talked while he had my frame, several times. Back in the day, he
>chopped a lot of bikes. He felt that he had to make them right, and
>he will not chop a stock frame any more. Besides, there are
>aftermarket frames now that can be used. He knows the metallurgy, and
>he can do anything with a frame that you can think of.
>
>He told me of one bike that he fixed that had been folded in half. The
>owner said that it rode better after it was repaired, than it did when
>new.
>
>Let me put it this way, having Darwin do your frame, is like having
>Smokey Yunick do the motah in your cage.
>
>He has a 53 Pan with the last set of HD Pan replacement cases. He
>has extensively modified the heads, and the bike is capable of 200mph.
>
>Little Hephaestus of the Okanogan.

Not anymore... yer gonna love this shit. Darwin got sideways into th'
drugs, was goin' downhill fast. Then somehow he met this gal who
instantly fell in love with his sorry ass. She cleaned his act up,
but good! He's back in th' game only better than ever and is happier
n' hell.

At th' time he met her he didn't know she owns a multi-million dollah
house in Browns Point (I can't even afford to go through th' gate) and
she's *very* well off <g>. No better example of fallin' inna pile O'
steamin' hot shit and comin' out smellin' like th' fuckin' Rose Bowl.
Th' Browns Point house is where he works out of now... no more
Okanogan.

>There simply ain't none better.

And now there's no chance in hell anyone ever will be.

By th' by, he said to say hey to ya and asked how th' Pan's comin'. I
think I mentioned they're onna way to AZ inna brandy gnu motorcoach
fer later year snow birdin' purposes. Blew me away that I reached him
so easy *and* he's gonna work me into th' line-up onna 1st.

Snarl... better buy a lotto ticket

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:14:15 -0700, snarl@trippin.com wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:46:05 -0500, heekster <heekster@iwxt.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:41:59 GMT, Ryder Rick <rickb794@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>
><schnipp>
>
>>>Let me know, I'd like to at least bend his ear a bit and get a feel for
>>>time and what he would charge. What did the heekster pay for his?
>>
>>The frame was a grotesque. Someone had taken a swingarm front, and
>>grafted a hardtail rear onto it. When Darwin took it apart, it had
>>fuckin' rebar in the downtubes and in the hardtail. All the bad
>>tubing was replaced, and sidecar loops, and all the little tabs and
>>castings were restored. The previous owned had munched the seat
>>plunger bushing area in the frame, and it was replaced by one from a
>>knuck frame. The only way anyone would ever know this, is if me or
>>Darwin told them.
>>
>>It cost about $1900, not bad considering how incredibly munged the
>>frame actually was. About 9 years ago.
>>
>>We talked while he had my frame, several times. Back in the day, he
>>chopped a lot of bikes. He felt that he had to make them right, and
>>he will not chop a stock frame any more. Besides, there are
>>aftermarket frames now that can be used. He knows the metallurgy, and
>>he can do anything with a frame that you can think of.
>>
>>He told me of one bike that he fixed that had been folded in half. The
>>owner said that it rode better after it was repaired, than it did when
>>new.
>>
>>Let me put it this way, having Darwin do your frame, is like having
>>Smokey Yunick do the motah in your cage.
>>
>>He has a 53 Pan with the last set of HD Pan replacement cases. He
>>has extensively modified the heads, and the bike is capable of 200mph.
>>
>>Little Hephaestus of the Okanogan.
>
>Not anymore... yer gonna love this shit. Darwin got sideways into th'
>drugs, was goin' downhill fast. Then somehow he met this gal who
>instantly fell in love with his sorry ass. She cleaned his act up,
>but good! He's back in th' game only better than ever and is happier
>n' hell.
>


Obviously not the same chick he was married to 9 years ago. He showed
me his previous wedding photos. He got married in Sturgis, before
they allowed trailers.


>At th' time he met her he didn't know she owns a multi-million dollah
>house in Browns Point (I can't even afford to go through th' gate) and
>she's *very* well off <g>. No better example of fallin' inna pile O'
>steamin' hot shit and comin' out smellin' like th' fuckin' Rose Bowl.
>Th' Browns Point house is where he works out of now... no more
>Okanogan.
>
Damn. I know that area.
Damn, damn, damn. Some people have all the luck.

>>There simply ain't none better.
>
>And now there's no chance in hell anyone ever will be.
>
>By th' by, he said to say hey to ya and asked how th' Pan's comin'.

I may be slow, but I'm dumb. The tranny is complete, including a
chromed shifter lid that the Coonass gave me. I got engine pieces
spread across a quarter of an acre.

Know how all yer shit breaks at once? Mines been doing that the last
several years. I am awesome at sweatsolder plumbing, and I just
replaced the bendix in my John Deere, and a bunch of other stuff. It
was the original Bendix, even said BENDIX on the bolt heads.


> I think I mentioned they're onna way to AZ inna brandy gnu motorcoach
>fer later year snow birdin' purposes. Blew me away that I reached him
>so easy *and* he's gonna work me into th' line-up onna 1st.
>
Oooh, a Darwin knuck frame. I'll let ya know now. His tolerances are
spot on. plus or minus zero. If you have a questionable part, it will
require the usual convincin' to fit where it should. OTOH, you
should be used to this from all the Taiwan Tedd shit that you and Eady
hammer on.

>Snarl... better buy a lotto ticket
--
the heekster, BS#4, more preposterous than ever
change the part twixt the @, and the period to txwi, and we'll talk

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:52:52 -0500, heekster <heekster@iwxt.net>
wrote:

<schnipp>

I mumbled:

>>Not anymore... yer gonna love this shit. Darwin got sideways into th'
>>drugs, was goin' downhill fast. Then somehow he met this gal who
>>instantly fell in love with his sorry ass. She cleaned his act up,
>>but good! He's back in th' game only better than ever and is happier
>>n' hell.
>
>Obviously not the same chick he was married to 9 years ago. He showed
>me his previous wedding photos. He got married in Sturgis, before
>they allowed trailers.

Nope different gal, a real sweetheart too. Smart, good lookin' *and*
rich.

>>At th' time he met her he didn't know she owns a multi-million dollah
>>house in Browns Point (I can't even afford to go through th' gate) and
>>she's *very* well off <g>. No better example of fallin' inna pile O'
>>steamin' hot shit and comin' out smellin' like th' fuckin' Rose Bowl.
>>Th' Browns Point house is where he works out of now... no more
>>Okanogan.
>>
>Damn. I know that area.
>Damn, damn, damn. Some people have all the luck.

Heh, that's what I said too. One thing it means to guys like us is
that if Darwin likes ya he can give ya th' brother price since it
ain't like he's gotta worry where his next meal comes from anymore.
I'm good wit dat!

>>>There simply ain't none better.
>>
>>And now there's no chance in hell anyone ever will be.
>>
>>By th' by, he said to say hey to ya and asked how th' Pan's comin'.
>
>I may be slow, but I'm dumb. The tranny is complete, including a
>chromed shifter lid that the Coonass gave me. I got engine pieces
>spread across a quarter of an acre.

Show off.

>Know how all yer shit breaks at once? Mines been doing that the last
>several years. I am awesome at sweatsolder plumbing, and I just
>replaced the bendix in my John Deere, and a bunch of other stuff. It
>was the original Bendix, even said BENDIX on the bolt heads.

I'm doin' just th' opposite. Gettin' rid of shit and only keepin' th'
stuff I don't have to fuck with unless I *want* to.

>> I think I mentioned they're onna way to AZ inna brandy gnu motorcoach
>>fer later year snow birdin' purposes. Blew me away that I reached him
>>so easy *and* he's gonna work me into th' line-up onna 1st.
>>
>Oooh, a Darwin knuck frame. I'll let ya know now. His tolerances are
>spot on. plus or minus zero. If you have a questionable part, it will
>require the usual convincin' to fit where it should.

I didn't turn you on to him fer no reason... he's done a few frames of
mine over th' decades. Eady's too.

>OTOH, you
>should be used to this from all the Taiwan Tedd shit that you and Eady
>hammer on.

Yeah, we ride 'em not spread th' parts over a half an acre : P It's
a lot more fun makin' a runner usin' repop stuff whilst ya look fer
th' stock shit ya need. You should try it someday.

Snarl... smooches