Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over 65
degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower 48.
Greg, Stella's better half.
02FLHTCUF
90FLHTCU
70BSA FBS

Greg Ochoa wrote:
> Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over 65
> degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
> haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
> warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
> population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
> region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
> giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower 48.
> Greg, Stella's better half.

I missed summer this year too......one of the hottest on record for us with
number of days over 110....

But it did rain more than it has in 10 years or more....

Greg Ochoa wrote:
> Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over 65
> degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
> haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
> warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
> population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
> region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
> giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower 48.
> Greg, Stella's better half.
> 02FLHTCUF
> 90FLHTCU
> 70BSA FBS

Yup. Have a look at this: http://www.climatethermometer.com/
Fairbanks and San Francisco look much colder than usual, while Phoenix
looks a lot hotter over the same period of time.

BigPiper

big_piper wrote:
> Greg Ochoa wrote:
>> Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over 65
>> degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
>> haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
>> warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
>> population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
>> region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
>> giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower 48.
>> Greg, Stella's better half.
>> 02FLHTCUF
>> 90FLHTCU
>> 70BSA FBS
>
> Yup. Have a look at this: http://www.climatethermometer.com/
> Fairbanks and San Francisco look much colder than usual, while Phoenix
> looks a lot hotter over the same period of time.
>
> BigPiper

That's because Phoenix is closer to Hell <snerk>

--
Grumpy
Babe v2.0 - 2000 FLSTC
DOF -2, BS#193, CVNS G&W, PF#1, Cult of Mac

Grumpy wrote:
> big_piper wrote:
>> Greg Ochoa wrote:
>>> Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over
>>> 65 degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
>>> haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
>>> warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
>>> population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
>>> region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
>>> giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower
>>> 48.
>>> Greg, Stella's better half.
>>> 02FLHTCUF
>>> 90FLHTCU
>>> 70BSA FBS
>>
>> Yup. Have a look at this: http://www.climatethermometer.com/
>> Fairbanks and San Francisco look much colder than usual, while Phoenix
>> looks a lot hotter over the same period of time.
>>
>> BigPiper
>
> That's because Phoenix is closer to Hell <snerk>
>

Phoenix IS hell......

big_piper wrote:
> Greg Ochoa wrote:
>> Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over 65
>> degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
>> haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
>> warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
>> population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
>> region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
>> giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower 48.
>> Greg, Stella's better half.
>> 02FLHTCUF
>> 90FLHTCU
>> 70BSA FBS
>
> Yup. Have a look at this: http://www.climatethermometer.com/
> Fairbanks and San Francisco look much colder than usual, while Phoenix
> looks a lot hotter over the same period of time.
>
> BigPiper

It's Global Dysfunction.

Al wrote:
> big_piper wrote:
>> Greg Ochoa wrote:
>>> Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over
>>> 65 degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
>>> haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
>>> warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
>>> population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
>>> region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
>>> giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower
>>> 48.
>>> Greg, Stella's better half.
>>> 02FLHTCUF
>>> 90FLHTCU
>>> 70BSA FBS
>>
>> Yup. Have a look at this: http://www.climatethermometer.com/
>> Fairbanks and San Francisco look much colder than usual, while Phoenix
>> looks a lot hotter over the same period of time.
>>
>> BigPiper
>
> It's Global Dysfunction.

Exactly.......and that's the problem with calling it "Global Warming", skeptics
act like since the "warming" is suppose to be "global" and since it's not
actually warmer everywhere......that "global warming" doesn't exist and the
folks who try to do something about it are bleeding leftist liberal nutjobs.

Usually they (folks who don't believe it) think like they do because of
intentional campaigns of disinformation by people/corporations with interests
that will be hurt by actually doing something about it......and they're fed that
stuff by fair and balanced news outlets like faux news.....

The actual warming may not be right where you're standing......or in the next
town.....but the warming is happening in places that matter because it ends up
changing climate/weather patterns in other places......

Very small changes in temps in the oceans are enough to effect currents, which
in turn effect weather.......

We're doomed I tell ya.......doomed......<sfsf>

(I'll go back to waiting for my plumber to show up)

Al wrote:
> big_piper wrote:
>> Greg Ochoa wrote:
>>> Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over
>>> 65 degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
>>> haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
>>> warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
>>> population resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
>>> region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
>>> giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower
>>> 48.
>>> Greg, Stella's better half.
>>> 02FLHTCUF
>>> 90FLHTCU
>>> 70BSA FBS
>>
>> Yup. Have a look at this: http://www.climatethermometer.com/
>> Fairbanks and San Francisco look much colder than usual, while Phoenix
>> looks a lot hotter over the same period of time.
>>
>> BigPiper
>
> It's Global Dysfunction.

Oh fuck......

Did I say all that shit out loud?????

Thought I was over in Al's garage........

Steve Irving wrote:

> Oh fuck......
>
> Did I say all that shit out loud?????
>
> Thought I was over in Al's garage........

Yup, you did. And I bet Al was facing the wall, with his fingers
stuck in his ears, going, "La la la la..." with his squinky little
eyes clamped shut.

BP

big_piper wrote:
> Steve Irving wrote:
>
>> Oh fuck......
>>
>> Did I say all that shit out loud?????
>>
>> Thought I was over in Al's garage........
>
> Yup, you did. And I bet Al was facing the wall, with his fingers stuck
> in his ears, going, "La la la la..." with his squinky little eyes
> clamped shut.
>
> BP

I thought he was out there sitting in his car.........barely managing, since his
wife is outa town.......

On Aug 13, 6:18*pm, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamqwest.net> wrote:

<clipped to the chase>

> Usually they (folks who don't believe it) think like they do because of
> intentional *campaigns of disinformation by people/corporations with interests
> that will be hurt by actually doing something about it......and they're fed that
> stuff by fair and balanced news outlets like faux news.....
>
> The actual warming may not be right where you're standing......or in the next
> town.....but the warming is happening in places that matter because it ends up
> changing climate/weather patterns in other places......
>
> Very small changes in temps in the oceans are enough to effect currents, which
> in turn effect weather.......
>
> We're doomed I tell ya.......doomed......<sfsf>

You sed it! Now it's my turn:
If we're doomed, it's inevitable. There's not a single damned thing
humanity can do, or a whole raft of things together, that will change
the combined natural cycles that the Earth is going through, I tell
ya. All this attribution to man's activities is poppycock. It's been
hotter than it is now, without any "human activities," or even humans
present, and it's been a damned-sight colder; many times, in the
couple-a-billion years this electron we're riding on has orbited that
atomic nucleus we call the Sun. Yeah, that's what the solar system
(atom) is, BTW, justone atom in one molecule (the Milky Way Galaxy)
and along with all of the billions and billions of galaxies we can
see, comprise the tiniest corner of a dog turd left on the front step
of the courthouse in another "dimension" so vast that our minds can't
even conceive of it. Wait'll you die, you'll see. "You will wish
yourself to distant orbs in a moment." Just a sidebar, there. Sorry.
Just like nineteenth century "scientists," the "Global Warming"
Chicken Littles started with the presumption that what is, just _is_,
and isn't supposed to change, so ennything that _does_ change must be
OUR FAULT!
So, Algore, the energy sucking utility pig with the "carbon
footprint," of his mansion in Tennessee, his limos and his private
jets, the size of of Godzilla's sneakers, comes out with a completely
bass-ackwards attribution of human carbon-dioxide emission for the
warming of the atmosphere, like we could actually _do_ anything to
change the global average temperature, when thar's solid science that
says increases in carbon dioxide historically aren't the cause of
warming, but a product of it. Algore is the poster-boy for an all-new
way to sucker humanity to make money. Hell, he won the Nobel Prize and
an Oscar already from the pussies.
The orbits of the planets (meaning the distance for the light/heat
to travel to us from the Sun) and the tilt of the Earth's axis, and
even (probably mainly) the Sun's long heating and cooling cycle are
the reasons for the natural cycle we're entering. F all this "greenie'
offal! If we're doomed, it's only because we can't adapt to natural
changes. The Midwest won't be the Breadbasket of the World much
longer. That will happen, but we won't stop the changes, only learn to
modify ourselves and our behaviors as a result of them. You can't hold
back nature, only accommodate it.
People look a school globes and think humankind somehow "owns" this
planet, and is actually capable of making a real change occur. Ever
hear of the "Little Ice Age?" (c.1100-1850) That was only the most
recent variation in it.Algore's charts themsrlves prove it.
We ARE doomed, actually, and that will be when the super-cauldera
known as Yellowstone National Park blows it's top, and that's due/
overdue. That's capable of end ing civiliation-as-we-know-it on this
planet. The floor of the 45 mile-wide valley has risen measurable in
just the last century. Something's building up.

We're doomed, I tell ya! ... Doomed! <sfsf>

--Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
36EL 37UL/LEC, 41U
it's just toys

Greg Ochoa <oach37@yahoo.com> wrote:

: Whew! We haven't had but three days over 75 degs. 14 days over 65
:degs. Fairbanks is flooding with it raining everyday for weeks. I
:haven't had one ride with just my tank top on and been wearing chaps for
:warmth. The odd thing this weather brought out the black and brown bear
opulation resulting in lots of maulings in the Anchorage to Denali Park
:region.All the great salmon fishing was two to three weeks late and the
:giant Mat-Su Veggies ain't so big. I need some bike time in the lower 48.
: Greg, Stella's better half.
:02FLHTCUF
:90FLHTCU
:70BSA FBS

We had a few warm days in June and July her in New Hampshire. August
has been cold and rainy. I heard that Chicago has had the coldest
first 9 years of any decade since the 1930's.

Global warming is a bitch.

---
Typical White Asshole

Sarge wrote:
> On Aug 13, 6:18 pm, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>
> <clipped to the chase>
>
>> Usually they (folks who don't believe it) think like they do because of
>> intentional campaigns of disinformation by people/corporations with interests
>> that will be hurt by actually doing something about it......and they're fed that
>> stuff by fair and balanced news outlets like faux news.....
>>
>> The actual warming may not be right where you're standing......or in the next
>> town.....but the warming is happening in places that matter because it ends up
>> changing climate/weather patterns in other places......
>>
>> Very small changes in temps in the oceans are enough to effect currents, which
>> in turn effect weather.......
>>
>> We're doomed I tell ya.......doomed......<sfsf>
>
> You sed it! Now it's my turn:
> If we're doomed, it's inevitable. There's not a single damned thing
> humanity can do, or a whole raft of things together, that will change
> the combined natural cycles that the Earth is going through, I tell
> ya. All this attribution to man's activities is poppycock. It's been
> hotter than it is now, without any "human activities," or even humans
> present, and it's been a damned-sight colder; many times, in the
> couple-a-billion years this electron we're riding on has orbited that
> atomic nucleus we call the Sun. Yeah, that's what the solar system
> (atom) is, BTW, justone atom in one molecule (the Milky Way Galaxy)
> and along with all of the billions and billions of galaxies we can
> see, comprise the tiniest corner of a dog turd left on the front step
> of the courthouse in another "dimension" so vast that our minds can't
> even conceive of it. Wait'll you die, you'll see. "You will wish
> yourself to distant orbs in a moment." Just a sidebar, there. Sorry.
> Just like nineteenth century "scientists," the "Global Warming"
> Chicken Littles started with the presumption that what is, just _is_,
> and isn't supposed to change, so ennything that _does_ change must be
> OUR FAULT!
> So, Algore, the energy sucking utility pig with the "carbon
> footprint," of his mansion in Tennessee, his limos and his private
> jets, the size of of Godzilla's sneakers, comes out with a completely
> bass-ackwards attribution of human carbon-dioxide emission for the
> warming of the atmosphere, like we could actually _do_ anything to
> change the global average temperature, when thar's solid science that
> says increases in carbon dioxide historically aren't the cause of
> warming, but a product of it. Algore is the poster-boy for an all-new
> way to sucker humanity to make money. Hell, he won the Nobel Prize and
> an Oscar already from the pussies.
> The orbits of the planets (meaning the distance for the light/heat
> to travel to us from the Sun) and the tilt of the Earth's axis, and
> even (probably mainly) the Sun's long heating and cooling cycle are
> the reasons for the natural cycle we're entering. F all this "greenie'
> offal! If we're doomed, it's only because we can't adapt to natural
> changes. The Midwest won't be the Breadbasket of the World much
> longer. That will happen, but we won't stop the changes, only learn to
> modify ourselves and our behaviors as a result of them. You can't hold
> back nature, only accommodate it.
> People look a school globes and think humankind somehow "owns" this
> planet, and is actually capable of making a real change occur. Ever
> hear of the "Little Ice Age?" (c.1100-1850) That was only the most
> recent variation in it.Algore's charts themsrlves prove it.
> We ARE doomed, actually, and that will be when the super-cauldera
> known as Yellowstone National Park blows it's top, and that's due/
> overdue. That's capable of end ing civiliation-as-we-know-it on this
> planet. The floor of the 45 mile-wide valley has risen measurable in
> just the last century. Something's building up.
>
> We're doomed, I tell ya! ... Doomed! <sfsf>
>
> --Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
> 36EL 37UL/LEC, 41U
> it's just toys

Ya watch Bill O and Sean Hannity much??????

<sfsf>

Steve Irving <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:

:"global warming" doesn't exist and the
:folks who try to do something about it are bleeding leftist liberal nutjobs.


---
Typical White Asshole

On Aug 13, 8:30*pm, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
> Sarge wrote:

> > You sed it! Now it's my turn:
> > * If we're doomed, it's inevitable. *There's not a single damned thing
> > humanity can do, or a whole raft of things together, that will change
> > the combined natural cycles that the Earth is going through>
> > We ARE doomed, actually, *and that will be when the super-cauldera
> > known as Yellowstone National Park blows it's top, and that's due/
> > overdue. That's capable of end ing civiliation-as-we-know-it on this
> > planet. The floor of the 45 mile-wide valley has risen measurable in
> > just the last century. *Something's building up.
>
> > We're doomed, I tell ya! ... Doomed! <sfsf>
>
> > --Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
> > 36EL 37UL/LEC, 41U
> > it's just toys
>
> Ya watch Bill O and Sean Hannity much??????
>
> <sfsf>

Never heard uv um. 'Just _good_ science, and a knowlege of history.
You, OTOH, have obviously drunk the Kool-Aid of the are bleeding
leftist liberal nutjobs. <sfsf>

--Sarge, in Sunny Florida, 131 feet above the present sea level, and
looking forward to having ocean front property.

SteveT wrote:
> Steve Irving <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>
> :"global warming" doesn't exist and the
> :folks who try to do something about it are bleeding leftist liberal nutjobs.
>
>
> ---
> Typical White Asshole

You work for Faux News???

---
Arrogant Elitist Slug

Sarge wrote:
> On Aug 13, 8:30 pm, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>> Sarge wrote:
>
>>> You sed it! Now it's my turn:
>>> If we're doomed, it's inevitable. There's not a single damned thing
>>> humanity can do, or a whole raft of things together, that will change
>>> the combined natural cycles that the Earth is going through>
>>> We ARE doomed, actually, and that will be when the super-cauldera
>>> known as Yellowstone National Park blows it's top, and that's due/
>>> overdue. That's capable of end ing civiliation-as-we-know-it on this
>>> planet. The floor of the 45 mile-wide valley has risen measurable in
>>> just the last century. Something's building up.
>>> We're doomed, I tell ya! ... Doomed! <sfsf>
>>> --Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
>>> 36EL 37UL/LEC, 41U
>>> it's just toys
>> Ya watch Bill O and Sean Hannity much??????
>>
>> <sfsf>
>
> Never heard uv um. 'Just _good_ science, and a knowlege of history.
> You, OTOH, have obviously drunk the Kool-Aid of the are bleeding
> leftist liberal nutjobs. <sfsf>

I read science too....and make sure it wasn't paid for by oil companies....

>
> --Sarge, in Sunny Florida, 131 feet above the present sea level, and
> looking forward to having ocean front property.

Me too (looking forward to having ocean front property)......I'm in Arizona......

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:31:12 -0400, SteveT <rmh3@no48panspam.com>
wrote:

>Steve Irving <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>
>:"global warming" doesn't exist and the
>:folks who try to do something about it are bleeding leftist liberal nutjobs.

If it weren't for global warming we all would be riding snow mobiles
year round

>
>
>---
>Typical White Asshole

58 FLH 61 FL 02 K1200LTC 07 R1200GSA

Sarge wrote:
> On Aug 13, 6:18 pm, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>
> <clipped to the chase>
>
>> Usually they (folks who don't believe it) think like they do because of
>> intentional campaigns of disinformation by people/corporations with interests
>> that will be hurt by actually doing something about it......and they're fed that
>> stuff by fair and balanced news outlets like faux news.....
>>
>> The actual warming may not be right where you're standing......or in the next
>> town.....but the warming is happening in places that matter because it ends up
>> changing climate/weather patterns in other places......
>>
>> Very small changes in temps in the oceans are enough to effect currents, which
>> in turn effect weather.......
>>
>> We're doomed I tell ya.......doomed......<sfsf>
>
> You sed it! Now it's my turn:
> If we're doomed, it's inevitable. There's not a single damned thing
> humanity can do, or a whole raft of things together, that will change
> the combined natural cycles that the Earth is going through, I tell
> ya. All this attribution to man's activities is poppycock. It's been
> hotter than it is now, without any "human activities," or even humans
> present, and it's been a damned-sight colder; many times, in the
> couple-a-billion years this electron we're riding on has orbited that
> atomic nucleus we call the Sun. Yeah, that's what the solar system
> (atom) is, BTW, justone atom in one molecule (the Milky Way Galaxy)
> and along with all of the billions and billions of galaxies we can
> see, comprise the tiniest corner of a dog turd left on the front step
> of the courthouse in another "dimension" so vast that our minds can't
> even conceive of it. Wait'll you die, you'll see. "You will wish
> yourself to distant orbs in a moment." Just a sidebar, there. Sorry.
> Just like nineteenth century "scientists," the "Global Warming"
> Chicken Littles started with the presumption that what is, just _is_,
> and isn't supposed to change, so ennything that _does_ change must be
> OUR FAULT!
> So, Algore, the energy sucking utility pig with the "carbon
> footprint," of his mansion in Tennessee, his limos and his private
> jets, the size of of Godzilla's sneakers, comes out with a completely
> bass-ackwards attribution of human carbon-dioxide emission for the
> warming of the atmosphere, like we could actually _do_ anything to
> change the global average temperature, when thar's solid science that
> says increases in carbon dioxide historically aren't the cause of
> warming, but a product of it. Algore is the poster-boy for an all-new
> way to sucker humanity to make money. Hell, he won the Nobel Prize and
> an Oscar already from the pussies.
> The orbits of the planets (meaning the distance for the light/heat
> to travel to us from the Sun) and the tilt of the Earth's axis, and
> even (probably mainly) the Sun's long heating and cooling cycle are
> the reasons for the natural cycle we're entering. F all this "greenie'
> offal! If we're doomed, it's only because we can't adapt to natural
> changes. The Midwest won't be the Breadbasket of the World much
> longer. That will happen, but we won't stop the changes, only learn to
> modify ourselves and our behaviors as a result of them. You can't hold
> back nature, only accommodate it.
> People look a school globes and think humankind somehow "owns" this
> planet, and is actually capable of making a real change occur. Ever
> hear of the "Little Ice Age?" (c.1100-1850) That was only the most
> recent variation in it.Algore's charts themsrlves prove it.
> We ARE doomed, actually, and that will be when the super-cauldera
> known as Yellowstone National Park blows it's top, and that's due/
> overdue. That's capable of end ing civiliation-as-we-know-it on this
> planet. The floor of the 45 mile-wide valley has risen measurable in
> just the last century. Something's building up.
>
> We're doomed, I tell ya! ... Doomed! <sfsf>
>
> --Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
> 36EL 37UL/LEC, 41U
> it's just toys

Ah. So it's not just r.m.h that you don't know a lot about.

Good to know.
--
spunky hussein TiredOfTheRisingTideOfBullshit tuna

Steve Irving <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:

:You work for Faux News???

No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once.

---
Typical White Asshole

me@nospam.com wrote:

:If it weren't for global warming we all would be riding snow mobiles
:year round

We don't ski because we want to. We ski because it too fucking cold
to do anything else.

---
Typical White Asshole

On Aug 13, 10:48*pm, spunky hussein tuna
<spunkyhusseint...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Ah. *So it's not just r.m.h that you don't know a lot about.
>
> Good to know.
> --
> spunky hussein TiredOfTheRisingTideOfBullshit tuna
>

Ah, so if it doesn't fit the current "PC" of the bleeding leftist
liberal nutjobs, it doesn't exist! Now I'm enlightened!
Twenty years ago the fear was for the return of an Ice Age. Forty
years ago the prediction was for excesive warming, etc, etc. It's all
true, anyway. When the North Atlantic thermal transfer stops for lack
of a temperature-gradient between north and south, Europe will freeze
again. It will, and it has before. We puny hoomin beans can't do a
thing to prevent it.
This is just another cultural paradigm shift. The Greenies are in it
for the money they see to be made creating new products and new
processes that "everyone" will have to embrace, fearing what is
ultimately inevitable.
Yeah, petroleum as-we-know-it is millions of years old, and
gradually running out. All of our gasoline-powered conveyances still
extant will probably be in museums by the 22nd Century, unless they
find a workable replacement for the Natural Stuff.

H
|
H-C-H etc.
|
H
(someone can do it better. I'm no chemist)
It's only Hydrogen and Carbon, f'r Gawdsakes! They are two of the most
plentiful elements on the sphere. You don't thing someone will figger
out how to string together H and C atoms in long strings before long?
Hell, they can make Bucky Balls, an unnatural Carbon construction,
already.
Saving your glass and plastic bottles and crap to recycle is a "good
idea," but when Mother Earth doesn't change her course one iota as a
result of all the con games, we'll still be here.
It's all bullshit. Life is short, rough, and some of us try their
damndest to make it rougher on everyone else to make a buck, and then
you die.
Peace, Tuna.
--Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
I ain't the leader of nuttin', so don't worry about me. I just put it
out, and it sticks or it don't.

SteveT wrote:
> Steve Irving <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>
> :You work for Faux News???
>
> No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once.
>
> ---
> Typical White Asshole

I can't afford Holiday Inn Express, but a couple years ago when I was working on
an install of a fuel control system down in Sierra Vista Arizona, staying at the
Best Western........

I'd carry my laptop next door to the lobby of the Holiday Inn Express, grab
their wifi and download/upload my e-mail.....

Sarge wrote:
> On Aug 13, 10:48 pm, spunky hussein tuna
> <spunkyhusseint...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Ah. So it's not just r.m.h that you don't know a lot about.
>>
>> Good to know.
>> --
>> spunky hussein TiredOfTheRisingTideOfBullshit tuna
>>
>
> Ah, so if it doesn't fit the current "PC" of the bleeding leftist
> liberal nutjobs, it doesn't exist! Now I'm enlightened!

John Birch Society charter member??????

On Aug 14, 12:58*am, Steve Irving <sd...@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
> Sarge wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 10:48 pm, spunky hussein tuna
> > <spunkyhusseint...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> Ah. *So it's not just r.m.h that you don't know a lot about.
>
> >> Good to know.
> >> --
> >> spunky hussein TiredOfTheRisingTideOfBullshit tuna
>
> > * Ah, so if it doesn't fit the current "PC" of the bleeding leftist
> > liberal nutjobs, it doesn't exist! Now I'm enlightened!
>
> John Birch Society charter member??????

No, School of Hard Knocks Graduate, Summa Cum Laude. I usta be paid
to shoot people and kill them, who were just as shit-scared of what
they were doing and where they were as I was, before they killed me.
Ever since, l've lived life like the gift it is. You can't quantify
that. But I hate to see people fucking it up with some of the
stupidest proposals imaginable.
John Birch nutjobs saw commies behind every tree in the '50s. Were
you even alive then? I was. I see the greatest experiment in Human
self-government (1776 to 2000-and-something) flushing itself down the
toilet in the name of "Political Correctness." What a sack of horse
apples.
The ACLU was founded to stand for defending the 1st Amendment. Just
today, they filed to overturn emergency juvenile curfews in two cities
where people are afraid to open their doors even in the daytime, or
show a shadow on their curtains after dark. "How dare we trample on
the 'civil rights' of these gun-totin' juvie gangbangers!" they say.
The police in those cities are truly the thin blue line between
civilized society and total bestiality, and they're finding that the
bleeding leftist liberal nutjobs are fighting tooth-and-nail to
preserve the rights of dirtbags to overrun 'um. That makes me a
Bircher? You have no idea who I am. Just 'cause I don't go with worst
of the popular left-coast loonyism, I must be a Right Wing screamin'
John Bircher tryin' to tear down Paradise and put up a parking lot!
Get real. That's much of what's wrong in America today. I'm for the
God-given inalienable right of self-defense, yeah. I'm also for a
woman's right to choose. That alone puts me at odds with Hannity and
Rush and Bill O. and those screamin', short-sighted media
millionaires.
I blame it on Richard Milhaus Nixon. That is the unmentionable, but
very real legacy of the man who took the US Presidency, and the
American political process, and turned it all into a great big game of
"gotcha!" We lost something (essential) when we totally lost respect
for those we elect to office, and all because of him. Our "media"
today works only to "get the goods" on every single person who dares
speak his/her mind, cleaving this country in two, for "ratings." We
suffer from it here in our little Biker Forum because it infects every
one of us. The Bastard!

--Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
I ain't the leader of nuttin', so don't worry about me.
Gawd! I hope The Keepers of the Eternal Flame don't disapprove of me
calling this a Biker Forum!

Sarge wrote:

>> John Birch Society charter member??????
>
> No, School of Hard Knocks Graduate, Summa Cum Laude. I usta be paid
> to shoot people and kill them, who were just as shit-scared of what
> they were doing and where they were as I was, before they killed me.

I was in the military also.......I was paid mainly to be a boat mechanic.

My DD214 shows a Vietnam Service Medal with campaign star, a Combat Action
Ribbon, and a National Defense Medal. I was involved in an opposed beach landing
at Quang Tri in 1972, the mining of Haiphong Harbor that same year, and the
clearing of those mines the next. The last operation I worked was Frequent Wind,
the evacuation of Saigon.

I did three WestPac cruises (I describe them as "tours" for the non-Naval types
who don't know better), all within the combat zone in SE Asia.

I don't have any exciting war stories, didn't have to walk around in the jungle
and other shit like that. But did spend a lot of time in small boats hauling
Marines around from place to place. Only time we took enemy fire was from shore
batteries (artillery) and machine gun emplacements, none of it came all that
close to me......

I was in for 4 years and was an E5 when I was returned to being a civilian in
mid-1975.

I then did another 26 years working for a municipality, until I retired in 2005.

> John Birch nutjobs saw commies behind every tree in the '50s. Were
> you even alive then? I was.

Yep, sure was........

Actually the John Birch Society was founded in 1958 and still operates today.
They've worked to impeach both Clinton AND Bush....<sfsf>

> I blame it on Richard Milhaus Nixon.

He was a criminal......

> suffer from it here in our little Biker Forum because it infects every
> one of us
>
> --Sarge, Fla, Brotherhood of the Slug #109, Southeastern Net Scum
> I ain't the leader of nuttin', so don't worry about me.
> Gawd! I hope The Keepers of the Eternal Flame don't disapprove of me
> calling this a Biker Forum!

Incoming.....<sfsf>

"Sarge" wrote:
Steve Irving wrote:
>
>> The actual warming may not be right where you're standing......or in the
>> next
>> town.....but the warming is happening in places that matter because it
>> ends up
>> changing climate/weather patterns in other places......
>
>> Very small changes in temps in the oceans are enough to effect currents,
>> which
>> in turn effect weather.......
>
>> We're doomed I tell ya.......doomed......<sfsf>

> If we're doomed, it's inevitable. There's not a single damned thing
> humanity can do, or a whole raft of things together, that will change
> the combined natural cycles that the Earth is going through, I tell
> ya. All this attribution to man's activities is poppycock.

A science special I saw on one of the DSC, TLC, NGEO, or SCI channels
suggested that it took some 100K's or M's of years for the excessive CO2 of
the last (long) global warming cycle to turn to carbon and get deposited in
the resultant stagnant oceans all those millions of years ago, and _that_
carbon gave us the oil that we now burn, which in turn releases CO2 back
into the atmosphere. Ipso facto, man is speeding up the natural process by
burning oil, in effect speeding up global warming.

Personally I don't give a fuck what I use for fuel, so the cleaner the
better, not just for the possibility that it is impacting global warming,
but also for the reason that exhaust from oil fired internal combustion
engines is nasty shit, period. Don't think so? Then come on over and suck on
the exhaust pipe of my Harley <sfsf>.

Just saying.
-Spanky

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:56:58 -0700, Steve Irving
<sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:

>SteveT wrote:
>> Steve Irving <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>>
>> :You work for Faux News???
>>
>> No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once.
>>
>> ---
>> Typical White Asshole
>
>I can't afford Holiday Inn Express, but a couple years ago when I was working on
>an install of a fuel control system down in Sierra Vista Arizona, staying at the
>Best Western........
>
>I'd carry my laptop next door to the lobby of the Holiday Inn Express, grab
>their wifi and download/upload my e-mail.....

typical democrat, wanting someone else to pay for something you want
that you cant pay for

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

<runnin n duckin>

<me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:6138a493rnuqcu4t8ni40fk1e8ehracr24@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:56:58 -0700, Steve Irving
> <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>
>>SteveT wrote:
>>> Steve Irving <sdirv@nospamqwest.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> :You work for Faux News???
>>>
>>> No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express once.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Typical White Asshole
>>
>>I can't afford Holiday Inn Express, but a couple years ago when I was
>>working on
>>an install of a fuel control system down in Sierra Vista Arizona, staying
>>at the
>>Best Western........
>>
>>I'd carry my laptop next door to the lobby of the Holiday Inn Express,
>>grab
>>their wifi and download/upload my e-mail.....
>
> typical democrat, wanting someone else to pay for something you want
> that you cant pay for

Yeah, unlike the fiscally responsible borrow and spend republicans, those
fiscally irresponsible tax and spend democrats really have their heads up
their asses. I mean, why the fuck would anyone want to pay their bills now,
when they can borrow the money, and pay later with interest?

Doesn't make any sense.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:00:20 -0400, "StevePaul"
<smarshallpaul@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>I'd carry my laptop next door to the lobby of the Holiday Inn Express,
>>>grab
>>>their wifi and download/upload my e-mail.....
>>
>> typical democrat, wanting someone else to pay for something you want
>> that you cant pay for
>
>Yeah, unlike the fiscally responsible borrow and spend republicans, those
>fiscally irresponsible tax and spend democrats really have their heads up
>their asses. I mean, why the fuck would anyone want to pay their bills now,

yes they really do, so far up their ass I don't see how they can tell
if the sun is out or not

>when they can borrow the money, and pay later with interest?

well I guess I could be a lazy ass and live off the democrats, hell
why not their so willing to give up their money it must had been free
to them in the 1st place

>Doesn't make any sense.

none of it does