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Old 01-10-2008, 11:34 PM
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I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). I would appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. TIA.



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Old 01-10-2008, 11:35 PM
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<macx2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). I would
>appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. TIA.


Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
same except for the torque convertor on the A.

Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
do your work for you.


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<macx2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). I would
>appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. TIA.


Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
same except for the torque convertor on the A.

Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
do your work for you.


--
K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com

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Old 01-10-2008, 11:35 PM
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> <macx2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). I would
>> appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. TIA.

>
> Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
> same except for the torque convertor on the A.
>
> Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
> do your work for you.


As it happens, I've got the genuine CB/CM400A Honda manual he
needs. And I've got a scanner. But unfortunately for him
I am not "someone like Chinaman". I've bought the printed
factory workshop manuals for nearly every bike and car I've
owned and they're the most useful tools in my shop for the
money spent.

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Default Re: 1978 Honda-matic CB400A

The Older Gentleman wrote:
> <macx2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). I would
>> appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. TIA.

>
> Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
> same except for the torque convertor on the A.
>
> Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
> do your work for you.


As it happens, I've got the genuine CB/CM400A Honda manual he
needs. And I've got a scanner. But unfortunately for him
I am not "someone like Chinaman". I've bought the printed
factory workshop manuals for nearly every bike and car I've
owned and they're the most useful tools in my shop for the
money spent.

--
'01 SV650S '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7

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Old 01-10-2008, 11:35 PM
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On 2 Jan, 11:22, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> >> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). *I would
> >> appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. *TIA.

>
> > Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
> > same except for the torque convertor on the A.

>
> > Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
> > do your work for you.

>
> As it happens, I've got the genuine CB/CM400A Honda manual he
> needs. *And I've got a scanner. *But unfortunately for him
> I am not "someone like Chinaman". *I've bought the printed
> factory workshop manuals for nearly every bike and car I've
> owned and they're the most useful tools in my shop for the
> money spent.
>


Quite.

Manuals are the tools that I *never* sell with a bike (owner's
handbooks, of course, are a different matter). Most of mine are Haynes
or Clymer, but I do have some genuine factory ones, and they're
usually the best.

Clymer was printing wiring diagrams in colour before Haynes got around
to it, which was handy at the time, even if most of the looms depicted
were US market.

Haynes can be quite useful for alternatives to genuine factory tools.
The trouble is spotting the mistake that creeps into every Haynes
book. I was doing the shims on a Kawasaki 750 some years back, and the
manual gave the torque setting for the cam caps in metric, but with a
decimal point misplaced. I remember thinking there was no way that I
was going to tighten them down to 80ft/lbs....

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On 2 Jan, 11:22, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> >> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). *I would
> >> appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. *TIA.

>
> > Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
> > same except for the torque convertor on the A.

>
> > Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
> > do your work for you.

>
> As it happens, I've got the genuine CB/CM400A Honda manual he
> needs. *And I've got a scanner. *But unfortunately for him
> I am not "someone like Chinaman". *I've bought the printed
> factory workshop manuals for nearly every bike and car I've
> owned and they're the most useful tools in my shop for the
> money spent.
>


Quite.

Manuals are the tools that I *never* sell with a bike (owner's
handbooks, of course, are a different matter). Most of mine are Haynes
or Clymer, but I do have some genuine factory ones, and they're
usually the best.

Clymer was printing wiring diagrams in colour before Haynes got around
to it, which was handy at the time, even if most of the looms depicted
were US market.

Haynes can be quite useful for alternatives to genuine factory tools.
The trouble is spotting the mistake that creeps into every Haynes
book. I was doing the shims on a Kawasaki 750 some years back, and the
manual gave the torque setting for the cam caps in metric, but with a
decimal point misplaced. I remember thinking there was no way that I
was going to tighten them down to 80ft/lbs....

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On Jan 2, 4:02 am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Jan, 11:22, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > > <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > >> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). I would
> > >> appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. TIA.

>
> > > Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
> > > same except for the torque convertor on the A.

>
> > > Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
> > > do your work for you.

>
> > As it happens, I've got the genuine CB/CM400A Honda manual he
> > needs. And I've got a scanner. But unfortunately for him
> > I am not "someone like Chinaman". I've bought the printed
> > factory workshop manuals for nearly every bike and car I've
> > owned and they're the most useful tools in my shop for the
> > money spent.

>
> Quite.
>
> Manuals are the tools that I *never* sell with a bike (owner's
> handbooks, of course, are a different matter). Most of mine are Haynes
> or Clymer, but I do have some genuine factory ones, and they're
> usually the best.
>
> Clymer was printing wiring diagrams in colour before Haynes got around
> to it, which was handy at the time, even if most of the looms depicted
> were US market.
>
> Haynes can be quite useful for alternatives to genuine factory tools.
> The trouble is spotting the mistake that creeps into every Haynes
> book. I was doing the shims on a Kawasaki 750 some years back, and the
> manual gave the torque setting for the cam caps in metric, but with a
> decimal point misplaced. I remember thinking there was no way that I
> was going to tighten them down to 80ft/lbs....


Most of the complaints I've seen were about Clymer rather than
Haynes. Last one I saw in Haynes gave an initial torque setting,
then reported the second torque value as 45 degrees when it
should have been 45 ft/lbs. In general, I think the rule is to consult
at least two sources, then ask yourself if what they're telling you
makes sense.

I give Haynes credit for much better artwork than my older Clymer
but Haynes is a pretty slim manual padded with a lot of pages of
generic motorcycle advice. Their manual for my shaftie spends
several pages explaining how to adjust drive chains.


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Old 01-10-2008, 11:35 PM
Rob Kleinschmidt
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On Jan 2, 4:02 am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Jan, 11:22, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > > <ma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > >> I am looking for a manual on the Honda-Matic CB400A (1978). I would
> > >> appreciate someone like Chinaman, posting it. TIA.

>
> > > Get a manual for a Honda 400 Dream or Super Dream - the bikes are the
> > > same except for the torque convertor on the A.

>
> > > Oh, and pay for it, you tight bastard, instead of asking someone here to
> > > do your work for you.

>
> > As it happens, I've got the genuine CB/CM400A Honda manual he
> > needs. And I've got a scanner. But unfortunately for him
> > I am not "someone like Chinaman". I've bought the printed
> > factory workshop manuals for nearly every bike and car I've
> > owned and they're the most useful tools in my shop for the
> > money spent.

>
> Quite.
>
> Manuals are the tools that I *never* sell with a bike (owner's
> handbooks, of course, are a different matter). Most of mine are Haynes
> or Clymer, but I do have some genuine factory ones, and they're
> usually the best.
>
> Clymer was printing wiring diagrams in colour before Haynes got around
> to it, which was handy at the time, even if most of the looms depicted
> were US market.
>
> Haynes can be quite useful for alternatives to genuine factory tools.
> The trouble is spotting the mistake that creeps into every Haynes
> book. I was doing the shims on a Kawasaki 750 some years back, and the
> manual gave the torque setting for the cam caps in metric, but with a
> decimal point misplaced. I remember thinking there was no way that I
> was going to tighten them down to 80ft/lbs....


Most of the complaints I've seen were about Clymer rather than
Haynes. Last one I saw in Haynes gave an initial torque setting,
then reported the second torque value as 45 degrees when it
should have been 45 ft/lbs. In general, I think the rule is to consult
at least two sources, then ask yourself if what they're telling you
makes sense.

I give Haynes credit for much better artwork than my older Clymer
but Haynes is a pretty slim manual padded with a lot of pages of
generic motorcycle advice. Their manual for my shaftie spends
several pages explaining how to adjust drive chains.


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