Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
"uplifting" Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He
held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he said:


"I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is
something that all white men that have lived here must learn and know;
that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the
intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share in any
of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and
bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I
have become well aware that we must retain this status; white, the
superior, and they the inferior, for whenever a white man seeks to
live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour
him, and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing
relationship or for any benefit to this people let white men from
anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa remember that you
must continually retain the status; you the master, and they inferior,
like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them
as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will
devour you; they will destroy you."

Just look at the Bell Curve and you will understand.

ted

On Jun 26, 9:32�am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Never fraternize with them
> as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will
> devour you; they will destroy you."

OTOH, the explorer, Sir Richard "Dirty Dick" Burton, actually became a
"participant observer" and apparently experienced all aspects of
African and west Asian sexuality, just as T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of
Arabia) explored Middle Eastern eroticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Ric...Richard_Burton

<wismel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
<snip>

>
> ted

What I wonder is, why do you think that motorcyclists or Nascar fans care?

On Jun 26, 9:32*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
> "uplifting" Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He
> held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he saidsnip)

Cite?

(Other than a Stormfront or White Power website, that is...)

"¿" <macmiled@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 26, 9:32�am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Never fraternize with them
> as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will
> devour you; they will destroy you."

OTOH, the explorer, Sir Richard "Dirty Dick" Burton, actually became a
"participant observer" and apparently experienced all aspects of
African and west Asian sexuality, just as T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of
Arabia) explored Middle Eastern eroticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Ric...Richard_Burton

--------------------------------------------------------------

Wow! What a life he led. I had heard of him back in the day in school but
never really checked him out. Talk about a rich and varied existense.

"armpit" <armarmpitpit@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GaednS3Su4njYNnXnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>
> <wismel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7st945l8t16g2hj94ia5gmlvpru6f36iab@4ax.com...
>>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> ted
>
> What I wonder is, why do you think that motorcyclists or Nascar fans care?

Ironically, NASCAR is fodder for at least one black comedian.

His routine went something like this:

"I always wondered how people could be fascinated with cars going round and
round and round and round. Then I met some NASCAR fans, and I understood."

Datesfat

wismel@yahoo.com wrote:

> Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
> "uplifting" Negroes... said... these individuals are a sub-race

In _Gone With the Wind_ Margaret Mitchell wrote:

the former field hands ... ran wild -- either from perverse pleasure
in destruction or simply because of their ignorance.

freedom became a never-ending picnic, a barbecue every day
of the week, a carnival of idleness and theft and insolence.
Country negroes flocked into the cities, leaving the rural districts
without labor to make the crops. Atlanta was crowded with them
and still they came by the hundreds, lazy and dangerous as a result
of the new doctrines being taught them.

For the first time in their lives the negroes were able to get
all the whiskey they might want. In slave days, it was something
they never tasted except at Christmas, when each one received
a "drap" along with his gift. Now they had not only the Bureau
agitators and the Carpetbaggers urging them on, but the incitement
of whiskey as well, and outrages were inevitable. Neither life nor
property was safe from them and the white people, unprotected by law,
were terrorized. Men were insulted on the streets by drunken blacks,
houses and barns were burned at night, horses and cattle and
chickens stolen in broad daylight, crimes of all varieties were
committed...

Well what a surprise to learn that the negroes were subject to the same
vices and corruption as white people! I am shocked and amazed.

So then Wismel's quote goes on to say:
> Never fraternize with them as equals, never accept them as your social
> equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you."

It seems to me Wismel forgets that it was *white folks* who dragged
millions of these unwilling people to American shores -- and it wasn't
the Dark Ages, either, it was the Renaissance, supposedly a time
of "enlightenment" and new ideas about freedom, etc. Surely someone
back then was enlightened enough to realize that slavery would become
obsolete sooner or later and then America would have to come to terms
with 4 (now 12) million people who couldn't be denied human rights
indefinitely.

If they were really hurting for farm labour why didn't they just bring
over more draft animals; after all donkeys and oxen bed down quietly
in the barn at night, they don't sneak over to other plantations
or crack corn when the Massa's gone away; and when the first quail calls
they don't run off for Canada by following the Drinking Gourd either.

SQ

On Jun 26, 2:17*pm, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:

> It seems to me Wismel forgets that it was *white folks* who dragged
> millions of these unwilling people to American shores -- and it wasn't
> the Dark Ages, either, it was the Renaissance, supposedly a time
> of "enlightenment" and new ideas about freedom, etc.

As I recall, king Louis 14th outlawed slavery in France during his
reign, but when the former slaves in Haiti demanded their rights under
the French Revolution document of The Rights of Man, they were opposed
by the French government.

Napoleon even considered reinstituting slavery...

Surely someone
> back then was enlightened enough to realize that slavery would become
> obsolete sooner or later and then America would have to come to terms
> with 4 (now 12) million people who couldn't be denied human rights
> indefinitely.


On the American shores, the Founding Fathers realized that they were
making a "deal with the Devil" when they compromised with the South
over slavery to get them to join the union.

The half dozen northern colonies desperately *needed* the South to be
in the Union for mutual defense, as the British could have easily
reconquered the South.

James Michener wrote an excellent popularization of the evolution of
the Constitution of the US, it's called "Legacy".

The institution of slavery in America probably could have been ended
without a
disastrous civil war. It probably could have been peacefully ended by,
say, 1880.

Brazil had a similar history with ending slavery, and it was over by
about 1880.

¿ wrote:

> On the American shores, the Founding Fathers realized that they were
> making a "deal with the Devil" when they compromised with the South
> over slavery to get them to join the union.

I'd like to know more about this quote from John J. Chapman; what work
it's from or what the occasion was when he said it: "There was never
a moment in our history when slavery was not a sleeping serpent. It was
coiled up under the table in the deliberations of the Constitutional
Convention. Owing to the cotton gin it was more than half awake.
Thereafter, slavery was on everyone's mind though not always on his
tongue."

> The half dozen northern colonies desperately *needed* the South to be
> in the Union for mutual defense

They also needed a few other things, like a year-round growing season.

> as the British could have easily
> reconquered the South.

"Easily"??? The Yanks didn't find it all that easy.

> The institution of slavery in America probably could have been ended
> without a
> disastrous civil war.

I believe a peaceful secession was more likely than a peaceful
emancipation. If the Montgomery gov't hadn't fired on the fort
they'd have had their Confederacy by a _fait accomplis_.

SQ

<wismel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7st945l8t16g2hj94ia5gmlvpru6f36iab@4ax.com...
>
> Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
> "uplifting" Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He
> held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he said:
>
>
> "I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is

<SNIP>

The quote you posted -- and I do find it offensive -- is apparently a
falsehood.

See:

http://www.schweitzer.org/english/diverse/asefaq.htm

under "Was Schweitzer a racist?".

Datesfat

"Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 26, 9:32 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
> "uplifting" Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He
> held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he saidsnip)
>
>Cite?
>
>(Other than a Stormfront or White Power website, that is...)

Good call. I did find this:

http://www.schweitzer.org/english/diverse/asefaq.htm

Under "Was Schweitzer a Racist?" it explains that the quote is a
fabrication.

Interesting.

Datesfat

Sean_Q_ wrote:
> wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
>> "uplifting" Negroes... said... these individuals are a sub-race
>
> In _Gone With the Wind_ Margaret Mitchell wrote:
>
> the former field hands ... ran wild -- either from perverse
> pleasure in destruction or simply because of their ignorance.
>
> freedom became a never-ending picnic, a barbecue every day
> of the week, a carnival of idleness and theft and insolence.
> Country negroes flocked into the cities, leaving the rural
> districts without labor to make the crops. Atlanta was crowded
> with them and still they came by the hundreds, lazy and dangerous
> as a result of the new doctrines being taught them.
>
> For the first time in their lives the negroes were able to get
> all the whiskey they might want. In slave days, it was something
> they never tasted except at Christmas, when each one received
> a "drap" along with his gift. Now they had not only the Bureau
> agitators and the Carpetbaggers urging them on, but the incitement
> of whiskey as well, and outrages were inevitable. Neither life nor
> property was safe from them and the white people, unprotected by
> law, were terrorized. Men were insulted on the streets by drunken
> blacks, houses and barns were burned at night, horses and cattle
> and chickens stolen in broad daylight, crimes of all varieties were
> committed...
>
> Well what a surprise to learn that the negroes were subject to the
> same vices and corruption as white people! I am shocked and amazed.
>
> So then Wismel's quote goes on to say:
> > Never fraternize with them as equals, never accept them as your
> social > equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you."
>
> It seems to me Wismel forgets that it was *white folks* who dragged
> millions of these unwilling people to American shores -- and it wasn't
> the Dark Ages, either, it was the Renaissance, supposedly a time
> of "enlightenment" and new ideas about freedom, etc. Surely someone
> back then was enlightened enough to realize that slavery would become
> obsolete sooner or later and then America would have to come to terms
> with 4 (now 12) million people who couldn't be denied human rights
> indefinitely.
>
> If they were really hurting for farm labour why didn't they just bring
> over more draft animals; after all donkeys and oxen bed down quietly
> in the barn at night, they don't sneak over to other plantations
> or crack corn when the Massa's gone away; and when the first quail
> calls they don't run off for Canada by following the Drinking Gourd
> either.

I guess that they just weren't clever enough to train donkeys and oxen to
pick cotton.

Sean_Q_ wrote:
> ¿ wrote:
>
>> On the American shores, the Founding Fathers realized that they were
>> making a "deal with the Devil" when they compromised with the South
>> over slavery to get them to join the union.
>
> I'd like to know more about this quote from John J. Chapman; what work
> it's from or what the occasion was when he said it: "There was never
> a moment in our history when slavery was not a sleeping serpent. It
> was coiled up under the table in the deliberations of the
> Constitutional Convention. Owing to the cotton gin it was more than
> half awake. Thereafter, slavery was on everyone's mind though not
> always on his tongue."
>
>> The half dozen northern colonies desperately *needed* the South to be
>> in the Union for mutual defense
>
> They also needed a few other things, like a year-round growing season.
>
>> as the British could have easily
>> reconquered the South.
>
> "Easily"??? The Yanks didn't find it all that easy.

They didn't find it all that easy in 1861, but the Constitution was ratified
more than 60 years earlier, and the British attempting to reconquer the
South would not have been supplying it with arms and munitions.

>> The institution of slavery in America probably could have been ended
>> without a
>> disastrous civil war.
>
> I believe a peaceful secession was more likely than a peaceful
> emancipation. If the Montgomery gov't hadn't fired on the fort
> they'd have had their Confederacy by a _fait accomplis_.

Yep, the secession was well underway in Congress when the fighting broke
out.

Starting a shooting war right then was as bonehead a move as the Japanese
attacking Pearl Harbor prior to the delivery of the declaration of war.

On Jun 26, 4:51*pm, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >Cite?
>
> >(Other than a Stormfront or White Power website, that is...)
>
> Good call. *I did find this:
>
> http://www.schweitzer.org/english/diverse/asefaq.htm
>
> Under "Was Schweitzer a Racist?" it explains that the quote is a
> fabrication.
>
> Interesting.

But not surprising. The White Power idiots *frequently* make up their
own facts, and because *they'd* never think to question such a quote
it never occurs to them that anyone else would.

Just one more example of why scum like this invariably inhabit the
bottom end of the bell curve.

Sean_Q_ wrote:

> 4 (now 12) million people

Oops - that should read (now 41) million

[as of 2006 - would be more by now].

SQ

On Jun 26, 10:32*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:

SNIP

Liar!

> Just look at the Bell Curve and you will understand.

Yep just ol' teddy boy suck at the ass of the bottom of the curve.
Just like he's done his whole life.

On Jun 26, 9:32*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
> "uplifting" Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He
> held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he said:
>
> "I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is
> something that all white men that have lived here must learn and know;
> that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the
> intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share in any
> of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and
> bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I
> have become well aware that we must retain this status; white, the
> superior, and they the inferior, for whenever a white man seeks to
> live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour
> him, and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing
> relationship or for any benefit to this people let white men from
> anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa remember that you
> must continually retain the status; you the master, and they inferior,
> like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them
> as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will
> devour you; they will destroy you."
>
> Just look at the Bell Curve and you will understand.
>
> ted



Schweitzer was a bad scientist. If he had been transported a couple
of thousand years into the past and plopped down amongst the Germanic
tribes, he would have given the same assessment, if he wasn't a
racist, of these people.

"Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 26, 4:51 pm, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> >Cite?
>
> >(Other than a Stormfront or White Power website, that is...)
>
> Good call. I did find this:
>
> http://www.schweitzer.org/english/diverse/asefaq.htm
>
> Under "Was Schweitzer a Racist?" it explains that the quote is a
> fabrication.
>
> Interesting.
>
>But not surprising. The White Power idiots *frequently* make up their
>own facts, and because *they'd* never think to question such a quote
>it never occurs to them that anyone else would.
>
>Just one more example of why scum like this invariably inhabit the
>bottom end of the bell curve.

Still, Wismel may be a consumer of bad facts, rather than a creator. I
assume that among the trailer park crowd, the neo-Nazis seem quite credible
and nobody in that crowd thinks to question them.

Race X = good, Race Y = bad ... if only it were that simple.

Datesfat

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:06:47 -0700, "Jeff Mayner"
<jeffmayner@sultanyahoo.com> wrote:


>>OTOH, the explorer, Sir Richard Burton,

>Wow! What a life he led. I had heard of him back in the day in school but
>never really checked him out. Talk about a rich and varied existense.

They don't make 'em like they used to. In the days before Google
Earth, explorers did some amazing stuff.

Captain Bligh, after the mutiny on the Bounty, was put into a 23'
launch with 18 of his men. In 47 days, he took that boat more than
3600 miles with no maps or compass, only a sextant and a pocket watch.

--
Turby the Turbosurfer

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:32:02 -0700, wismel@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa,
>"uplifting" Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He
>held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he said:
>
>
>"I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is
>something that all white men that have lived here must learn and know;
>that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the
>intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share in any
>of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and
>bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I
>have become well aware that we must retain this status; white, the
>superior, and they the inferior, for whenever a white man seeks to
>live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour
>him, and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing
>relationship or for any benefit to this people let white men from
>anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa remember that you
>must continually retain the status; you the master, and they inferior,
>like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them
>as equals, never accept them as your social equals; or they will
>devour you; they will destroy you."
>
>Just look at the Bell Curve and you will understand.
>
>ted

Rushton, the man who wrote it, is a pseudo-scientist of the
worst order. That isn't even news anymore.