I have a Shoei full-face.

I've noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The
vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough
airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.

Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special
ways of washing the visor that will help?

Thanks.
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"David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I have a Shoei full-face.> I've
noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The >
vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough >
airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.> Are
there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special >
ways of washing the visor that will help?


Spit. On the inside and rub it around. That's if you have nothing else at
hand. Others will chime in soon with better suggestions but this works when
you have nothing else available.
Sue
Minocqua, WI
Yamaha '00 VStar 650
'04 TW200 (mud = fun)
Kawasaki '95 Vulcan 1500 V#15937

"Do what you want and say what you feel because those that mind, don't
matter and those that matter, don't mind". ~Dr. Seuss

"David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I have a Shoei full-face.> I've
noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The >
vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough >
airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.> Are
there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special >
ways of washing the visor that will help?


Spit. On the inside and rub it around. That's if you have nothing else at
hand. Others will chime in soon with better suggestions but this works when
you have nothing else available.
Sue
Minocqua, WI
Yamaha '00 VStar 650
'04 TW200 (mud = fun)
Kawasaki '95 Vulcan 1500 V#15937

"Do what you want and say what you feel because those that mind, don't
matter and those that matter, don't mind". ~Dr. Seuss

"Susan (CobbersMom)" <dittohead1152@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:TDVcj.5027$Pt6.1455@trndny07...
> "David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I have a Shoei full-face.> I've
> noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The >
> vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough >
> airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.>
> Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or
> special > ways of washing the visor that will help?
>
>
> Spit. On the inside and rub it around. That's if you have nothing else
> at hand. Others will chime in soon with better suggestions but this works
> when you have nothing else available.
> Sue

Hehe, sure why not. After decades of skiing in fog / white out conditions
there comes a time when you can do it blindfolded.

Between the eyeglasses / goggles / faceshields / frosty windshield I've
learnd to make do safely.

Although I will never willingly ride into a snow storm on my F4i again.

"Susan (CobbersMom)" <dittohead1152@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:TDVcj.5027$Pt6.1455@trndny07...
> "David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I have a Shoei full-face.> I've
> noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The >
> vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough >
> airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.>
> Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or
> special > ways of washing the visor that will help?
>
>
> Spit. On the inside and rub it around. That's if you have nothing else
> at hand. Others will chime in soon with better suggestions but this works
> when you have nothing else available.
> Sue

Hehe, sure why not. After decades of skiing in fog / white out conditions
there comes a time when you can do it blindfolded.

Between the eyeglasses / goggles / faceshields / frosty windshield I've
learnd to make do safely.

Although I will never willingly ride into a snow storm on my F4i again.

> "David T. Ashley" wrote:
> .... For example, are there coatings for the visor that will help?

Fog City Shield available at most any moto-accessories shop. I leave on my
clear Shoei shield's year around. I don't apply it to my darker shield as
it's warmer when I switch to that one.

B~

> "David T. Ashley" wrote:
> .... For example, are there coatings for the visor that will help?

Fog City Shield available at most any moto-accessories shop. I leave on my
clear Shoei shield's year around. I don't apply it to my darker shield as
it's warmer when I switch to that one.

B~

In article <XqGdncibP5OegunanZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote:

> I have a Shoei full-face.
>
> I've noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The
> vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough
> airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.
>
> Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special
> ways of washing the visor that will help?

Some hockey players wear face shields made of Lexan and they have the
same problem. I wear glasses under my mask (no lexan for me!) and they
would fog up, too. Hockey equipment dealers usually have fog juice: you
squirt it on the shield or glasses, spread it around, then buff it like
car wax. The more you use it, the better it works.

--
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faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
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In article <XqGdncibP5OegunanZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote:

> I have a Shoei full-face.
>
> I've noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The
> vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough
> airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.
>
> Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special
> ways of washing the visor that will help?

Some hockey players wear face shields made of Lexan and they have the
same problem. I wear glasses under my mask (no lexan for me!) and they
would fog up, too. Hockey equipment dealers usually have fog juice: you
squirt it on the shield or glasses, spread it around, then buff it like
car wax. The more you use it, the better it works.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml
Ten Steps to Fascism: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2064157,00.html

"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote:

:Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special
:ways of washing the visor that will help?

Fogg City insert for the shield. If you wear glasses under the
shield, stop off at a SCUBA store and get some anti-fog for $2.
Total cost, about $15. No more fog, ever.
--

"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote:

:Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special
:ways of washing the visor that will help?

Fogg City insert for the shield. If you wear glasses under the
shield, stop off at a SCUBA store and get some anti-fog for $2.
Total cost, about $15. No more fog, ever.
--

B. Peg wrote:
>> "David T. Ashley" wrote:
>> .... For example, are there coatings for the visor that will help?
>
> Fog City Shield available at most any moto-accessories shop. I leave on my
> clear Shoei shield's year around. I don't apply it to my darker shield as
> it's warmer when I switch to that one.

+1. Wonderful things, Fog City Shields. Well, until they get a bunch
of little scratches in them. Gotta get a new one this spring.

--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
outback_jon@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net
AMD Opteron 146 (@2.8) and 6.1 GHz of other AMD power...
http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 53560

2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157
1980 CB750F SuperSport <== For Sale $1200

B. Peg wrote:
>> "David T. Ashley" wrote:
>> .... For example, are there coatings for the visor that will help?
>
> Fog City Shield available at most any moto-accessories shop. I leave on my
> clear Shoei shield's year around. I don't apply it to my darker shield as
> it's warmer when I switch to that one.

+1. Wonderful things, Fog City Shields. Well, until they get a bunch
of little scratches in them. Gotta get a new one this spring.

--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
outback_jon@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net
AMD Opteron 146 (@2.8) and 6.1 GHz of other AMD power...
http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 53560

2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157
1980 CB750F SuperSport <== For Sale $1200

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:54:12 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote:

>I have a Shoei full-face.
>
>I've noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The
>vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough
>airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.
>
>Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special
>ways of washing the visor that will help?
>
>Thanks.

In a bind, try breathing in thorough your nose and out through your mouth,
directing the exhaled stream down.

Ben

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:54:12 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote:

>I have a Shoei full-face.
>
>I've noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs up. The
>vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly to get enough
>airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold days ... it is cold.
>
>Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or special
>ways of washing the visor that will help?
>
>Thanks.

In a bind, try breathing in thorough your nose and out through your mouth,
directing the exhaled stream down.

Ben

Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> In a bind, try breathing in thorough your nose and out through your mouth,
> directing the exhaled stream down.
>

After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to agree
mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity. For those brief
occasions exhaling by blowing down out of the helmet works quite
decently. No stray reflections as from Fog City, no nuisance of the
coating having to be replaced (by the time you know it's necessary,
the spit routine is likely to be the only handy option).

It's useful to remember that if you're warmly dressed, a little cold
breeze through a (slightly) opened faceshield isn't all that bad. If
the cold really bothers your face, it might be time to warm up all
over.

bob prohaska

Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> In a bind, try breathing in thorough your nose and out through your mouth,
> directing the exhaled stream down.
>

After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to agree
mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity. For those brief
occasions exhaling by blowing down out of the helmet works quite
decently. No stray reflections as from Fog City, no nuisance of the
coating having to be replaced (by the time you know it's necessary,
the spit routine is likely to be the only handy option).

It's useful to remember that if you're warmly dressed, a little cold
breeze through a (slightly) opened faceshield isn't all that bad. If
the cold really bothers your face, it might be time to warm up all
over.

bob prohaska

bob prohaska's usenet account wrote:
> After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to agree
> mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
> low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity.

Can even be an issue at high speeds if one is behind a fairing. If I
stand up, the vents in my helmet work well, and the fogging clears, but
when seated on the bike, the windshield directs the air in a bubble that
doesn't let the chin vent work.


--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
outback_jon@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net
AMD Opteron 146 (@2.8) and 6.1 GHz of other AMD power...
http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 53560

2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157

bob prohaska's usenet account wrote:
> After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to agree
> mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
> low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity.

Can even be an issue at high speeds if one is behind a fairing. If I
stand up, the vents in my helmet work well, and the fogging clears, but
when seated on the bike, the windshield directs the air in a bubble that
doesn't let the chin vent work.


--
"Outback" Jon - KC2BNE
outback_jon@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net
AMD Opteron 146 (@2.8) and 6.1 GHz of other AMD power...
http://folding.stanford.edu - got folding? Team 53560

2006 ZG1000A Concours "Blueline" COG# 7385 CDA# 0157

David T. Ashley wrote:
> I have a Shoei full-face.
>
> I've noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs
> up. The vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly
> to get enough airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold
> days
> ... it is cold.
>
> Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or
> special ways of washing the visor that will help?

Get the Shoei pinlock visor. Much more satisfactory than the Fog City
insert.

>
> Thanks.

--
--
--John
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David T. Ashley wrote:
> I have a Shoei full-face.
>
> I've noticed that on rainy days and in cold weather the visor fogs
> up. The vents don't help a lot. I have to open the visor slightly
> to get enough airflow. On rainy days, no big deal. But on cold
> days
> ... it is cold.
>
> Are there any other approaches? For example, are there coatings or
> special ways of washing the visor that will help?

Get the Shoei pinlock visor. Much more satisfactory than the Fog City
insert.

>
> Thanks.

--
--
--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"Outback Jon" <teammft@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote in message
news:gTZcj.4858$nh7.1013@trnddc01...
> bob prohaska's usenet account wrote:
>> After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to agree
>> mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
>> low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity.
>
> Can even be an issue at high speeds if one is behind a fairing. If I
> stand up, the vents in my helmet work well, and the fogging clears, but
> when seated on the bike, the windshield directs the air in a bubble that
> doesn't let the chin vent work.

Ah, now my problem is making more sense. I have a windshield thingie, and I
know that the airstream touches only the top of my helmet. So, the chin
vent is relatively ineffective. Never thought about that.
--
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http://www.e3ft.com (Consulting Home Page)
http://www.dtashley.com (Personal Home Page)
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"Outback Jon" <teammft@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote in message
news:gTZcj.4858$nh7.1013@trnddc01...
> bob prohaska's usenet account wrote:
>> After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to agree
>> mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
>> low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity.
>
> Can even be an issue at high speeds if one is behind a fairing. If I
> stand up, the vents in my helmet work well, and the fogging clears, but
> when seated on the bike, the windshield directs the air in a bubble that
> doesn't let the chin vent work.

Ah, now my problem is making more sense. I have a windshield thingie, and I
know that the airstream touches only the top of my helmet. So, the chin
vent is relatively ineffective. Never thought about that.
--
David T. Ashley (dta@e3ft.com)
http://www.e3ft.com (Consulting Home Page)
http://www.dtashley.com (Personal Home Page)
http://gpl.e3ft.com (GPL Publications and Projects)

David T. Ashley wrote:
> "Outback Jon" <teammft@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote in message
> news:gTZcj.4858$nh7.1013@trnddc01...
>> bob prohaska's usenet account wrote:
>>> After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to
>>> agree
>>> mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
>>> low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity.
>>
>> Can even be an issue at high speeds if one is behind a fairing. If
>> I
>> stand up, the vents in my helmet work well, and the fogging clears,
>> but when seated on the bike, the windshield directs the air in a
>> bubble that doesn't let the chin vent work.
>
> Ah, now my problem is making more sense. I have a windshield
> thingie, and I know that the airstream touches only the top of my
> helmet. So, the chin vent is relatively ineffective. Never thought
> about that.

One thing I've noticed is that commuting around town in cold weather I
tend to get fog on both the visor and my glasses. When I've been on
the road for an hour or so then it goes away and stays away until I
stop somewhere long enough for everything to warm up or cool down.
It's not entirely speed related--while I get less fog at 70 I still
get some for that first hour or so unless I leave the visor cracked
just a bit, then after an hour or so (might be a half hour, might be
15 minutes--I've never put a stopwatch on it) I can close the visor
completely and no problem. If I stop for lunch then I have the same
thing happen afterward.

I've been assuming that this has something to do with visor and
glasses coming to equilibrium temperature, but I wouldn't swear to
that being the cause.

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David T. Ashley wrote:
> "Outback Jon" <teammft@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote in message
> news:gTZcj.4858$nh7.1013@trnddc01...
>> bob prohaska's usenet account wrote:
>>> After trying both anti-fog coatings and Fog City, I'd have to
>>> agree
>>> mostly with Ben. Fogging faceshields are really a problem only at
>>> low speeds, low temperatures and high humidity.
>>
>> Can even be an issue at high speeds if one is behind a fairing. If
>> I
>> stand up, the vents in my helmet work well, and the fogging clears,
>> but when seated on the bike, the windshield directs the air in a
>> bubble that doesn't let the chin vent work.
>
> Ah, now my problem is making more sense. I have a windshield
> thingie, and I know that the airstream touches only the top of my
> helmet. So, the chin vent is relatively ineffective. Never thought
> about that.

One thing I've noticed is that commuting around town in cold weather I
tend to get fog on both the visor and my glasses. When I've been on
the road for an hour or so then it goes away and stays away until I
stop somewhere long enough for everything to warm up or cool down.
It's not entirely speed related--while I get less fog at 70 I still
get some for that first hour or so unless I leave the visor cracked
just a bit, then after an hour or so (might be a half hour, might be
15 minutes--I've never put a stopwatch on it) I can close the visor
completely and no problem. If I stop for lunch then I have the same
thing happen afterward.

I've been assuming that this has something to do with visor and
glasses coming to equilibrium temperature, but I wouldn't swear to
that being the cause.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
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