Latest instalment of our web TV show for bikers is up:

http://www.garagenight.tv

Pete shows how to get the old bearings off, the cups out, and the new
bits lubed and installed.

All the best,
Waz

"Waz" <murray.wn@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:aad9c3c5-615a-4939-824f-c7eca7446568@q28g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Latest instalment of our web TV show for bikers is up:
>
> http://www.garagenight.tv
>
> Pete shows how to get the old bearings off, the cups out, and the new
> bits lubed and installed.

I'll sleep much better tonight thanks.

On Jul 18, 2:02 pm, "Nige" <nigel.inceGETA...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I'll sleep much better tonight thanks.

And in the end that's what we're aiming for, isn't it?

Sweet dreams and a kiss on the forehead to you, Nige. Don't forget to
wake up.

Waz
http://www.garagenight.tv

Waz wrote:
> On Jul 18, 2:02 pm, "Nige" <nigel.inceGETA...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll sleep much better tonight thanks.
>
> And in the end that's what we're aiming for, isn't it?
>
> Sweet dreams and a kiss on the forehead to you, Nige. Don't forget to
> wake up.
>
> Waz
> http://www.garagenight.tv

Lick your own bollocks.

--


Nige, 'It takes a nation of millions to hold me back'.

Range Rover Td6 Vogue
BMW K1200S
FOCUS ST3

On Jul 18, 7:01*am, Waz <murray...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Latest instalment of our web TV show for bikers is up:
>
> http://www.garagenight.tv
>
> Pete shows how to get the old bearings off, the cups out, and the new
> bits lubed and installed.

Nicely done video, Waz.

On Jul 18, 6:13 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nicely done video, Waz.

Cheers Don. Thanks for staying on board.

On Jul 18, 5:51 pm, "Nige" <nigel.inceFUCK...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Lick your own bollocks.
>

Don't you mean 'Lube your own bearings'?

Waz <murray.wn@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> Nicely done video, Waz.

> Cheers Don. Thanks for staying on board.

Works for you, does he?

Sorry, but I closed the window in a fit of laughter when the numpty
narrator pointed out "These are your handlebars". FFS.

Waz wrote:
> On Jul 18, 5:51 pm, "Nige" <nigel.inceFUCK...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Lick your own bollocks.
>>
>
> Don't you mean 'Lube your own bearings'?

If you can

--


Nige, 'It takes a nation of millions to hold me back'.

Range Rover Td6 Vogue
BMW K1200S
FOCUS ST3

On Jul 18, 11:41*am, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Waz <murray...@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
> >> Nicely done video, Waz.
> > Cheers Don. Thanks for staying on board.
>
> Works for you, does he?

About as much as your pettiness works for you.

> Sorry, but I closed the window in a fit of laughter when the numpty
> narrator pointed out "These are your handlebars". FFS.

I see. If it's not an advertising-funded, broadcast TV show, it just
can't be any good...

For basically off-the-cuff scripting, it was well done and informative
and I've noticed from their previous work, they're improving a lot as
they do more. I'd like to see more people doing what those guys are
doing.

On Jul 18, 6:41 pm, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Works for you, does he?
>
> Sorry, but I closed the window in a fit of laughter when the numpty
> narrator pointed out "These are your handlebars". FFS.

Hey Adrian.

If you listen again, you can hear both Pete and myself give a bit of a
laugh after I say 'These are your handlebars'. I guess it passed you
by.

Next time I'll say something like 'These are the handlebars - A LITTLE
JOKE, ADRIAN, OF COURSE YOU ALREADY KNEW THEY WERE THE HANDLEBARS!!'

No, Don doesn't work for me, but if I'm not mistaken he's watched one
or two of the videos and offered suggestions along the way. *This is
your cue to offer a suggestion along the lines of Nige's above.*

Waz

Waz <murray.wn@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> Sorry, but I closed the window in a fit of laughter when the numpty
>> narrator pointed out "These are your handlebars". FFS.

> If you listen again, you can hear both Pete and myself give a bit of a
> laugh after I say 'These are your handlebars'. I guess it passed you by.
>
> Next time I'll say something like 'These are the handlebars - A LITTLE
> JOKE, ADRIAN, OF COURSE YOU ALREADY KNEW THEY WERE THE HANDLEBARS!!'

<sigh>
Here's a clue for you. A stream-of-consciousness unscripted, unedited
commentary really isn't impressive or professional. It makes you look
like some amateur who's wondering what to do with the camcorder he got
for his birthday.

> No, Don doesn't work for me, but if I'm not mistaken he's watched one or
> two of the videos and offered suggestions along the way. *This is your
> cue to offer a suggestion along the lines of Nige's above.*

Nah, I'll leave that to others, thanks.

On Jul 18, 7:48 pm, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's a clue for you. A stream-of-consciousness unscripted, unedited
> commentary really isn't impressive or professional. It makes you look
> like some amateur who's wondering what to do with the camcorder he got
> for his birthday.
>

<sigh>

Hi Adrian, here's a clue for you. We're not out to impress you.
Clearly with you being a gentleman of such impeccable and discerning
taste, we'd have no chance. Take these vids for what they are, or
leave them for what they're not. Your choice.

Adrian wrote:
> Waz <murray.wn@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying:
>
>>> Sorry, but I closed the window in a fit of laughter when the numpty
>>> narrator pointed out "These are your handlebars". FFS.
>
>> If you listen again, you can hear both Pete and myself give a bit of a
>> laugh after I say 'These are your handlebars'. I guess it passed you by.
>>
>> Next time I'll say something like 'These are the handlebars - A LITTLE
>> JOKE, ADRIAN, OF COURSE YOU ALREADY KNEW THEY WERE THE HANDLEBARS!!'
>
> <sigh>
> Here's a clue for you. A stream-of-consciousness unscripted, unedited
> commentary really isn't impressive or professional. It makes you look
> like some amateur who's wondering what to do with the camcorder he got
> for his birthday.

The fact that it may look 'unprofessional' is all part of it IMHO. I
think it's fun and makes a refreshing change from all of the dumbed down
health and safety bollocks we have to put up with on 'real' TV. (Top
Gear might be the exception to that rule)

At least Waz got off his arse and did something productive with his
camcorder.

I've tinkered with bikes for *cough* years now and still managed to pick
up a tip or two from it.

(No connection)

--
/Simon

Waz wrote:
> On Jul 18, 7:48 pm, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here's a clue for you. A stream-of-consciousness unscripted, unedited
>> commentary really isn't impressive or professional. It makes you look
>> like some amateur who's wondering what to do with the camcorder he got
>> for his birthday.
>>
>
> <sigh>
>
> Hi Adrian, here's a clue for you. We're not out to impress you.
> Clearly with you being a gentleman of such impeccable and discerning
> taste, we'd have no chance. Take these vids for what they are, or
> leave them for what they're not. Your choice.

Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to
promote their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the
critics, it'll never end well for you or your product.

Nev..
'07 XB12X

"Nev.." <idiot@mindless.com> wrote in message
news:488166d9$0$29823$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Waz wrote:
>> On Jul 18, 7:48 pm, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here's a clue for you. A stream-of-consciousness unscripted, unedited
>>> commentary really isn't impressive or professional. It makes you look
>>> like some amateur who's wondering what to do with the camcorder he got
>>> for his birthday.
>>>
>>
>> <sigh>
>>
>> Hi Adrian, here's a clue for you. We're not out to impress you.
>> Clearly with you being a gentleman of such impeccable and discerning
>> taste, we'd have no chance. Take these vids for what they are, or
>> leave them for what they're not. Your choice.
>
> Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to promote
> their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the critics, it'll
> never end well for you or your product.
>
> Nev..
> '07 XB12X

Because the customer is always right? I thought that was a US thing?
Critics are a pack of cunts, especially on the internet.

justAL

On Jul 19, 4:58 am, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>
> Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to
> promote their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the
> critics, it'll never end well for you or your product.
>
> Nev..
> '07 XB12X

Oh Nev, we're doing something about bikes, that might be of interest
to other bikers, and mentioning it on some forums about bikes. Does
that not seem to make sense to you? Does it not also seem that it
would be rude NOT to stick around and joust with the critics? If you
didn't stick around, you'd just be doing the same as the sp*mmers, who
lob in a bulk email about their cheap knock-off watches and then
disappear.

Honestly, 'Here's a clue ...' 'Just a tip ...' How patronising.

Waz

justAL wrote:
> "Nev.." <idiot@mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:488166d9$0$29823$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Waz wrote:
>>> On Jul 18, 7:48 pm, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Here's a clue for you. A stream-of-consciousness unscripted, unedited
>>>> commentary really isn't impressive or professional. It makes you look
>>>> like some amateur who's wondering what to do with the camcorder he got
>>>> for his birthday.
>>>>
>>> <sigh>
>>>
>>> Hi Adrian, here's a clue for you. We're not out to impress you.
>>> Clearly with you being a gentleman of such impeccable and discerning
>>> taste, we'd have no chance. Take these vids for what they are, or
>>> leave them for what they're not. Your choice.
>> Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to promote
>> their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the critics, it'll
>> never end well for you or your product.
>>
>> Nev..
>> '07 XB12X
>
> Because the customer is always right? I thought that was a US thing?

No not because the customer is always right.

> Critics are a pack of cunts, especially on the internet.

Precisely.. and as I know you have seen before Al, when product
producers/sellers start arguing in a public forum with critics/trollers
they seem to slip into the same mode of argument.. or as you so
eloquently put it, acting like a cunt themselves. Not good for
business. Ignore them and they will probably go away, challenge them
and bring your product/self under intense scrutiny.

Nev..
'07 XB12X

Waz wrote:
> On Jul 19, 4:58 am, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>> Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to
>> promote their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the
>> critics, it'll never end well for you or your product.
>>
>> Nev..
>> '07 XB12X
>
> Oh Nev, we're doing something about bikes, that might be of interest
> to other bikers, and mentioning it on some forums about bikes. Does
> that not seem to make sense to you? Does it not also seem that it
> would be rude NOT to stick around and joust with the critics? If you
> didn't stick around, you'd just be doing the same as the sp*mmers, who
> lob in a bulk email about their cheap knock-off watches and then
> disappear.
>
> Honestly, 'Here's a clue ...' 'Just a tip ...' How patronising.

This is exactly the sort of thing I am warning you about...

Nev..
'07 XB12X

On Jul 19, 8:51 am, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>
> Precisely.. and as I know you have seen before Al, when product
> producers/sellers start arguing in a public forum with critics/trollers
> they seem to slip into the same mode of argument..
>
> Nev..

Hey Nev, I'm selling something? You'd better tell me what it is,
because a few people around the place must owe me a few quid! ;-)

'Intense scrutiny' is more than welcome, by the way - you'd be kinda
naive to put videos up on the internet without expecting it.

'Not good for business'? I hardly think jousting with a few trolls on
Usenet is going to put me out of [whatever] business [you have decided
I am in]!

Enjoying the [somewhat tangential] debate!
Waz

Waz wrote:
> On Jul 19, 8:51 am, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>> Precisely.. and as I know you have seen before Al, when product
>> producers/sellers start arguing in a public forum with critics/trollers
>> they seem to slip into the same mode of argument..
>>
>> Nev..
>
> Hey Nev, I'm selling something? You'd better tell me what it is,
> because a few people around the place must owe me a few quid! ;-)
>
> 'Intense scrutiny' is more than welcome, by the way - you'd be kinda
> naive to put videos up on the internet without expecting it.
>
> 'Not good for business'? I hardly think jousting with a few trolls on
> Usenet is going to put me out of [whatever] business [you have decided
> I am in]!
>
> Enjoying the [somewhat tangential] debate!
> Waz

I know how much you dislike being patronised Waz, but if you actually
read what I wrote, you might notice I wasn't directing those comments to
you, nor was I talking about you. Not sure exactly what debate you're
referring to either.. maybe you're reading a different thread?

Nev..
'07 XB12X

Waz wrote:
> On Jul 19, 4:58 am, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>> Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to
>> promote their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the
>> critics, it'll never end well for you or your product.
>>
>> Nev..
>> '07 XB12X
>
> Oh Nev, we're doing something about bikes, that might be of interest
> to other bikers, and mentioning it on some forums about bikes. Does
> that not seem to make sense to you? Does it not also seem that it
> would be rude NOT to stick around and joust with the critics? If you
> didn't stick around, you'd just be doing the same as the sp*mmers, who
> lob in a bulk email about their cheap knock-off watches and then
> disappear.

Wazza. Nev has a point. We run into the same problems when we try to
refute public misconceptions about some of the agricultural practises
that are in use.

The detractor can say anything they want, and are under seemingly no
compulsion to back up their claims. We (you) on the other hand, have
every word scrutineered and challenged - and woe betide you if you make
one little mistake, because then it doesn't matter how valid any of our
(your) other arguments are, as they all are tarred with the brush of
worse possible scenario.

It irks me - but it's a very real aspect.

Well done. Appreciated.
MikeH

Waz wrote:
> Latest instalment of our web TV show for bikers is up:
>
> http://www.garagenight.tv
>
> Pete shows how to get the old bearings off, the cups out, and the new
> bits lubed and installed.
>
> All the best,
> Waz

Peter Cremasco wrote:
>
> The detractor can say anything they want, and are under seemingly no
> compulsion to back up their claims.
>

That's why the only detractors I bother arguing with are those that at
least attempt to use factual data.

The others are just pissing in the wind and aren't worthy of your
attention


G-S

"Nev.." <idiot@mindless.com> wrote in message
news:48819d70$0$29827$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> justAL wrote:
>> "Nev.." <idiot@mindless.com> wrote in message
>> news:488166d9$0$29823$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>> Waz wrote:
>>>> On Jul 18, 7:48 pm, Adrian <toomany2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Here's a clue for you. A stream-of-consciousness unscripted, unedited
>>>>> commentary really isn't impressive or professional. It makes you look
>>>>> like some amateur who's wondering what to do with the camcorder he got
>>>>> for his birthday.
>>>>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Adrian, here's a clue for you. We're not out to impress you.
>>>> Clearly with you being a gentleman of such impeccable and discerning
>>>> taste, we'd have no chance. Take these vids for what they are, or
>>>> leave them for what they're not. Your choice.
>>> Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to
>>> promote their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the
>>> critics, it'll never end well for you or your product.
>>>
>>> Nev..
>>> '07 XB12X
>>
>> Because the customer is always right? I thought that was a US thing?
>
> No not because the customer is always right.
>
>> Critics are a pack of cunts, especially on the internet.
>
> Precisely.. and as I know you have seen before Al, when product
> producers/sellers start arguing in a public forum with critics/trollers
> they seem to slip into the same mode of argument.. or as you so eloquently
> put it, acting like a cunt themselves. Not good for business. Ignore
> them and they will probably go away, challenge them and bring your
> product/self under intense scrutiny.
>
> Nev..
> '07 XB12X

Spot on Nev, spot on.

justAL

"Waz" <murray.wn@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:bd2de2c8-c52f-4e71-8f16-7e61eab4ad0d@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 19, 4:58 am, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just a tip waz. As has been discovered by other people who try to
>> promote their own products on usenet, if you start arguing with the
>> critics, it'll never end well for you or your product.
>>
>> Nev..
>> '07 XB12X
>
> Oh Nev, we're doing something about bikes, that might be of interest
> to other bikers, and mentioning it on some forums about bikes. Does
> that not seem to make sense to you? Does it not also seem that it
> would be rude NOT to stick around and joust with the critics? If you
> didn't stick around, you'd just be doing the same as the sp*mmers, who
> lob in a bulk email about their cheap knock-off watches and then
> disappear.
>
> Honestly, 'Here's a clue ...' 'Just a tip ...' How patronising.
>
[chortle] and now everyone is considering what an argumentative cockhead you
are and absolutely NO-ONE is bothering to look at your website.
That was the result Nev was warning you about.......
--
Clem

"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:6cmgk.20956$IK1.20637@news-server.bigpond.net.au:

>

>>
> [chortle] and now everyone is considering what an argumentative
> cockhead you are and absolutely NO-ONE is bothering to look at your
> website. That was the result Nev was warning you about.......

Err no. I looked at the episode and thought it was pretty good. I have
changed steering head bearings myself a few times and I still learnt
something new from this episode.

Well done to the authors for for actually doing something useful.

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On Jul 19, 12:01 pm, Peter Cremasco <FirsName.LastN...@bigpond.com>
wrote:
>
> Wazza. Nev has a point. We run into the same problems when we try to
> refute public misconceptions about some of the agricultural practises
> that are in use.
>

Hey Peter! We did the first Toowoomba netride together - remember? You
put an email out on aus.moto and it was just you and me mate, all
those years ago. What are you riding these days?

Nev, I did misinterpret what you were saying - my apologies. I failed
to follow the golden rule: read twice, reply once.

I don't necessarily agree, though, about not arguing with detractors/
critics. When people are directly criticising what you're doing or
saying, I think you should respond and debate with them - isn't that
supposed to be what Usenet is about (anyone remember that?). Let's go
back to what Adrian was saying earlier in the thread - I don't agree
with him, but after his initially 'numpty narrator/FFS' comment (I
might get that added to my caption on the videos), when I responded he
at least elaborated and made a second, more meaningful contribution
that told us what his beef actually is (even though I still don't
agree with him, and hearteningly it appears I'm not alone ;-) )

People who are outright trolls, as opposed to detractors/critics =
different story.

Waz
http://www.garagenight.tv

Waz wrote:
> On Jul 19, 12:01 pm, Peter Cremasco <FirsName.LastN...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>> Wazza. Nev has a point. We run into the same problems when we try to
>> refute public misconceptions about some of the agricultural practises
>> that are in use.
>>
>
> Hey Peter! We did the first Toowoomba netride together - remember? You
> put an email out on aus.moto and it was just you and me mate, all
> those years ago. What are you riding these days?

Muck Phee! 1998/99 perhaps? You though I had a BMW GS? Down MaMa Creek
and up Flagstone Creek Rod? Yeah. I remember. What in the hell are you
up to these days - apart from making instructional u-tube videos?

Upgraded from the Suzi GS450 to a BMW K100. Broke that and now ride an
FJR1300.

Glad to see you doing well and in fine form. Would never have picked you
from the vids. Bloody small world.

On Jul 19, 11:25 pm, Peter Cremasco <FirsName.LastN...@bigpond.com>
wrote:
>
> Muck Phee! 1998/99 perhaps? You though I had a BMW GS? Down MaMa Creek
> and up Flagstone Creek Rod? Yeah. I remember. What in the hell are you
> up to these days - apart from making instructional u-tube videos?

Yep, that's me, I had a Cagiva Elefant (still do, though it's a 750,
whereas I had a 900 back then). You're right, I think I was expecting
a GS rider that day. I hope I didn't seem disappointed!

If you search aus.motorcycles for 'Toowoomba netride' it appears it
was just before Christmas 1998. I even wrote a report: 'A scenic run
from the Eton Vale BP, down through Ma Ma Creek into the Lockyer
Valley then back to Toowoomba via Flagstone Creek Road.'

I am living and working in London these days. Are you still in the
Woomba? What is the motorbiking scene like there these days? You might
see my good mate Dave riding round occasionally on his blue and white
Ducati Monster 750 done in Shelby Cobra stripes. I know how that
sounds, but it's a sweet bike.

Waz
http://www.garagenight.tv