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Old 08-21-2008, 02:02 AM
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Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
About It
by Jon Entine, Earl Smith


Here are some reviews of the book....


Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
sports?
Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
only
raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
Athletes
Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.
Entine is no stranger to controversy, having worked with Tom Brokaw on
the
award-winning NBC News documentary Black Athletes: Fact and Fiction in
1989.
He's also willing to ask tough questions--and come up with answers
that anger
people on all sides of the issue. Entine starts off with some
statistics
indicating that African-American athletes are disproportionately
represented in
professional sports: for example, 13 percent of the U.S. population is
black,
but the NFL is 65 percent black, the NBA is nearly 80 percent black,
and the
WNBA is 70 percent black. He also examines cultural issues, laying to
rest the
long-held idea that blacks excel in sports because it is the only
avenue open
for advancement.


Some scholars cry foul at the idea that blacks are physically gifted,
seeing
this as a subtle way of saying that they are therefore intellectually
stunted.
Entine carefully argues that historically athletic ability and
intellectual
prowess were linked--with a positive bias. The "dumb jock" stereotype
is a
relatively recent construct--perhaps a defensive mechanism that arose
when
blacks began to participate on a level playing field and gain
prominence in the
sporting world. There's no reason to suppose athleticism and
intelligence are
inversely related; Entine quotes respected sports reporter Frank
Deford:
"[W]hen Jack Nicklaus sinks a 30-foot putt, nobody thinks his IQ goes
down."
The issue of physical superiority is further complicated by fears that
a
genetic explanation results in a belief that blacks don't succeed
because of
hard work, dedication, and drive, but rather (in the words of Brooks
Johnson,
who doesn't believe Entine's claims) "because God just gave 'em the
right
gene."


Is the fear of sounding racist hindering legitimate scientific
inquiry? Entine
believes so, noting that, "Anyone who attempts to breach this taboo to
study or
even discuss what might be behind the growing performance gap between
black and
white athletes must be prepared to run a gauntlet of public scorn,
survival not
guaranteed." Taboo is destined to make most of its readers
uncomfortable.
Hopefully this discomfort will serve as a wedge to open up discussion
of an
issue too long avoided. --Sunny Delaney --This text refers to the
Hardcover
edition.


From Scientific American
Few issues are as provocative and as poorly understood as biological
differences among the races. So loaded are statements suggesting
racial
superiority or inferiority that, for the most part, an anxious hush
surrounds
the topic. To his credit, journalist Jon Entine has tackled this
problem with a
no-holds-barred assault. Not shy about poking at the issue's softest
spots, he
goes after the history of sports and race science, the segregation and
integration of sports, racial breeding and... read more --This text
refers to
the Hardcover edition.


Book Description
Now in paperback, the book that jump-started a debate that shows no
sign of
ending. "Could well be the most intellectually demanding sports book
ever
written." -Washington Post Award-winning journalist Jon Entine's
Taboo: Why
Black Atheletes Dominate Sports and why We're Afraid t Talk About It
created
enormous controversy when PublicAffairs released it in hardcover in
the fall of
1999. Rarely does a book so highly lauded by critics also elicit
letters to the
editor so passionately praising or damning the author for even daring
to raise
a subject. Drawing on the latest scientific research, and addressing
all the
major sports of North America, Entine persuasively shows why biology
and
ancestry are significant components of the stunning ascension of black
athletes. He offers a gripping history of blacks in sports and a
fascinating
examination of the circumstances that have made addressing the facts
so
difficult and controversial. Artfully, and carefully, combining
science, sports
history, and sociology, Taboo has already proven to be one of the most
controversial and illuminating books in recent memory. Paperback
edition
includes new Afterword by author.


This book contains several diatribes against Christians. No other
religious
group is condemned. Thoughtful people need to be careful not to
finance
prejudice by buying books like this one. I found this book at my local
library.
When everyone is being so sensitive about issues such as race and
religion, why
would an author take such a risk? The answer is to be found in the
relationship
between the author and his subject matter.


<< He presents the genetic and anthropological evidence for the
dominance of
black athletes in some sports. >>


He is able to link the leading athletes from a sport to specific,
localized
regions in Africa. But the author has no scientific credentials. A
problem? Not
if he acts as a megaphone for the academic elites, the scientists who
do have
the credentials. He is forced to reference them hundreds of times. But
these
elites do not want to be seen as being racist. They have already been
pilloried
by their leftist academic peers for daring to study genetic
differences in
humans. And the author does not want to be a pariah of his liberal
friends in
journalism. No problem! He takes fully half of the book to present a
judgemental history, from leftist academic historians, of blacks in
sports. He
condemns whites ad nauseum, especially white Christians, and compares
their
supposed opinions 100 years ago to the moral standards of the present
day. One
wonders if the hateful opinions expressed in this book will be
respected 100
years from now, under the standards of the future.


ted

http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance

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Old 08-21-2008, 02:10 AM
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In talk.politics.guns wismel@yahoo.com wrote:

>Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
>About It
>by Jon Entine, Earl Smith
>
>
>Here are some reviews of the book....
>
>
>Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
>sports?



>ted
>
>http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance


Is there a genetic reason why ted is afraid of black people? Or does
it have something to do with the night when his Dad came home and
finally told them that his mother had run off with a black man?

It was then Ted know, as he looked at his shriveled manhood-- a
genetic gift from his father-- that he was destined to envy the Black
Man for the rest of his days.




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On Aug 20, 9:02*pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
> About It
> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith
>
> Here are some reviews of the book....
>
> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
> sports?
> Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
> only
> raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
> Athletes
> Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.


IMHO
While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. Black kids
see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. It doesn't
cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. It cost
money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
putters, etc. are usually white. It cost money to use a pool so
winners in swimming are pretty white. Most quarterbacks in football
are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.


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Old 08-21-2008, 02:52 AM
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In talk.politics.guns James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 20, 9:02*pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
>> About It
>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith
>>
>> Here are some reviews of the book....
>>
>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
>> sports?
>> Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
>> only
>> raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
>> Athletes
>> Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.

>
>IMHO
>While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. Black kids
>see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. It doesn't
>cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. It cost
>money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
>putters, etc. are usually white. It cost money to use a pool so
>winners in swimming are pretty white. Most quarterbacks in football
>are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.


Nah, that's too simple a solution for ted. It's GOTTA be the
Jews......

_____________________
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building of character."
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:09 PM
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote:

>In talk.politics.guns James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 20, 9:02*pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
>>> About It
>>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith
>>>
>>> Here are some reviews of the book....
>>>
>>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
>>> sports?
>>> Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
>>> only
>>> raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
>>> Athletes
>>> Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.

>>
>>IMHO
>>While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. Black kids
>>see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. It doesn't
>>cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. It cost
>>money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
>>putters, etc. are usually white. It cost money to use a pool so
>>winners in swimming are pretty white. Most quarterbacks in football
>>are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.

>
>Nah, that's too simple a solution for ted. It's GOTTA be the
>Jews......
>
>_____________________
>"Intellectual activity is a danger to the
> building of character."
> -Goebbels

I researched the book quoted and note that Jon Entine is Jewish.
It's not a matter of money as much as genetics. We all except that
spaniels
and beagles are both dogs but with differant abilites and behavior
patterns.

ted

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Old 08-21-2008, 01:48 PM
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wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> In talk.politics.guns James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 20, 9:02 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
>>>> About It
>>>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith
>>>>
>>>> Here are some reviews of the book....
>>>>
>>>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
>>>> sports?
>>>> Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
>>>> only
>>>> raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
>>>> Athletes
>>>> Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.
>>> IMHO
>>> While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. Black kids
>>> see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. It doesn't
>>> cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. It cost
>>> money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
>>> putters, etc. are usually white. It cost money to use a pool so
>>> winners in swimming are pretty white. Most quarterbacks in football
>>> are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.

>> Nah, that's too simple a solution for ted. It's GOTTA be the
>> Jews......
>>
>> _____________________
>> "Intellectual activity is a danger to the
>> building of character."
>> -Goebbels

> I researched the book quoted


No you didn't. You're too fucking stupid to read.

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Old 08-21-2008, 01:51 PM
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In talk.politics.guns wismel@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>In talk.politics.guns James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Aug 20, 9:02*pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
>>>> About It
>>>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith
>>>>
>>>> Here are some reviews of the book....
>>>>
>>>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
>>>> sports?
>>>> Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
>>>> only
>>>> raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
>>>> Athletes
>>>> Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.
>>>
>>>IMHO
>>>While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. Black kids
>>>see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. It doesn't
>>>cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. It cost
>>>money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
>>>putters, etc. are usually white. It cost money to use a pool so
>>>winners in swimming are pretty white. Most quarterbacks in football
>>>are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.

>>
>>Nah, that's too simple a solution for ted. It's GOTTA be the
>>Jews......
>>
>>_____________________
>>"Intellectual activity is a danger to the
>> building of character."
>> -Goebbels

>I researched the book quoted and note that Jon Entine is Jewish.
>It's not a matter of money as much as genetics. We all except that
>spaniels
>and beagles are both dogs but with differant abilites and behavior
>patterns.
>
>ted


Oh, well, you researched THE book. LOL

Idiot.

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Old 08-21-2008, 02:25 PM
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On Aug 21, 8:09*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>
>
>
>
> <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote:
> >In talk.politics.guns James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> >>On Aug 20, 9:02*pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
> >>> About It
> >>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith

>
> >>> Here are some reviews of the book....

>
> >>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
> >>> sports?
> >>> Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
> >>> only
> >>> raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
> >>> Athletes
> >>> Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.

>
> >>IMHO
> >>While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. *Black kids
> >>see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. *It doesn't
> >>cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. *It cost
> >>money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
> >>putters, etc. are usually white. *It cost money to use a pool so
> >>winners in swimming are pretty white. *Most quarterbacks in football
> >>are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.

>
> >Nah, that's too simple a solution for ted. It's GOTTA be the
> >Jews......

>
> >_____________________
> >"Intellectual activity is a danger to the
> > building of character."
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-Goebbels

>
> I researched the book quoted and note that Jon Entine is Jewish.
> It's not a matter of money as much as genetics. We all except that
> spaniels
> and beagles are both dogs but with differant abilites and behavior
> patterns.
>
> ted- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I still say it's money otherwise blacks would be flooding golf and
tennis too. They can't afford the green fees so all they got is Tiger
Woods and William sisters. Were there any blacks in cycling or canoe
events? Any event that requires equipment is absent of blacks.

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Old 08-21-2008, 04:33 PM
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James wrote:

> On Aug 21, 8:09Â*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>> >>IMHO
>> >>While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. Â*Black kids
>> >>see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. Â*It doesn't
>> >>cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. Â*It cost
>> >>money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
>> >>putters, etc. are usually white. Â*It cost money to use a pool so
>> >>winners in swimming are pretty white. Â*Most quarterbacks in football
>> >>are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.

>>
>> >Nah, that's too simple a solution for ted. It's GOTTA be the
>> >Jews......

>>
>> >_____________________
>> >"Intellectual activity is a danger to the
>> > building of character."
>> > -Goebbels

>>
>> I researched the book quoted and note that Jon Entine is Jewish.
>> It's not a matter of money as much as genetics. We all except that
>> spaniels
>> and beagles are both dogs but with differant abilites and behavior
>> patterns.
>>
>> ted- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I still say it's money otherwise blacks would be flooding golf and
> tennis too. They can't afford the green fees so all they got is Tiger
> Woods and William sisters. Were there any blacks in cycling or canoe
> events? Any event that requires equipment is absent of blacks.


You make it sound like it is "either - or" type of situation. Either it is
only money, hence lack of black sailors or polo players, or it is only
genetic predispositions. How about both?

Anyway, football requires equipment and blacks are overrepresented there.
Blacks play for most of European countries even if they sometimes make less
than one percent of the corresponding population.

--
Andrzej Rosa

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On Aug 20, 9:36*pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It doesn't
> cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black.



Then how do you explain the black domination of the Equestrian events?

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Old 08-21-2008, 06:16 PM
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On Aug 21, 12:51*pm, thedarkoneli...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 20, 9:36*pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It doesn't
> > cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black.

>
> Then how do you explain the black domination of the Equestrian events?


I've never seen a black in those events.

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Old 08-22-2008, 06:11 AM
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>>>> On Aug 20, 9:02 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
>>>>> About It
>>>>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some reviews of the book....
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
>>>>> sports?


I've heard it said that they have an extra muscle in the buttock or upper
thigh area. It's a small advantage compared to the difference between male
and female physiology. Every little bit helps.


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Old 08-22-2008, 07:03 AM
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On Aug 21, 10:11*pm, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>>>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
> >>>>> sports?

>
> I've heard it said that they have an extra muscle in the buttock or upper
> thigh area.


Uh, and no doubt you heard it said by somebody who had absolutely *no*
knowledge of physiology.

No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.

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"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote
No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.

That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.



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Old 08-22-2008, 12:41 PM
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In talk.politics.guns "Vito" <vito@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:

>>"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote
>>No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.

>
>That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
>forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.


What seems unlikely is that you know shit about human physiology.

"Extra muscles." ROFLMAO. No wonder you guys sit around your
single-wides sniffing glue all day.



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Old 08-22-2008, 12:44 PM
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Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns "Vito" <vito@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
>
>>> "Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote
>>> No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.

>> That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
>> forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.

>
> What seems unlikely is that you know shit about human physiology.
>
> "Extra muscles." ROFLMAO. No wonder you guys sit around your
> single-wides sniffing glue all day.
>
>

Oh, I don't know. Some of those neonazi pinheads have an "extra
muscle" between their ears, where a brain would be in a sentient
human.

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Old 08-22-2008, 12:48 PM
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In talk.politics.guns Tim Miller <replytonewsgroup@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns "Vito" <vito@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> "Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.
>>> That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
>>> forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.

>>
>> What seems unlikely is that you know shit about human physiology.
>>
>> "Extra muscles." ROFLMAO. No wonder you guys sit around your
>> single-wides sniffing glue all day.
>>
>>

>Oh, I don't know. Some of those neonazi pinheads have an "extra
>muscle" between their ears, where a brain would be in a sentient
>human.


I forgot, too, about the rare "anal-re-routing" phenomenon, in which
the lower intestine empties instead into the cranial cavity of the
"extra muscle" crowd.

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Old 08-22-2008, 04:32 PM
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On Aug 21, 8:09*am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>
>
>
>
>
> <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote:
> >In talk.politics.guns James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> >>On Aug 20, 9:02*pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
> >>> About It
> >>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith

>
> >>> Here are some reviews of the book....

>
> >>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
> >>> sports?
> >>> Even raising the question seems tantamount to heresy. Jon Entine not
> >>> only
> >>> raises the question, he strives to answer it in Taboo: Why Black
> >>> Athletes
> >>> Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It.

>
> >>IMHO
> >>While genetics is one varible, the main varible is money. *Black kids
> >>see sports as the road to riches that's availble to them. *It doesn't
> >>cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black. *It cost
> >>money to buy equipment so the high jumpers, pole vaulters, shot
> >>putters, etc. are usually white. *It cost money to use a pool so
> >>winners in swimming are pretty white. *Most quarterbacks in football
> >>are white probably because they got a football to play with as a kid.

>
> >Nah, that's too simple a solution for ted. It's GOTTA be the
> >Jews......

>
> >_____________________
> >"Intellectual activity is a danger to the
> > building of character."
> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-Goebbels

>
> I researched the book quoted and note that Jon Entine is Jewish.
> It's not a matter of money as much as genetics. We all except that
> spaniels
> and beagles are both dogs but with differant abilites and behavior
> patterns.
>
> ted- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


there are definitely inherited differences between black and white
americans. for instance, many white americans have inherited huge
estates or banks or railroads etc. from their ancestors 150 years ago,
while black americans seem incapable of doing so.

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Old 08-22-2008, 04:34 PM
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On Aug 21, 1:16*pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 21, 12:51*pm, thedarkoneli...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Aug 20, 9:36*pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > It doesn't
> > > cost anything to run so most of the good runners are black.

>
> > Then how do you explain the black domination of the Equestrian events?

>
> I've never seen a black in those events.


some of the horses ae black. i believe they have an extra muscle.

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Old 08-22-2008, 04:35 PM
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On Aug 22, 1:11*am, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 20, 9:02 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk
> >>>>> About It
> >>>>> by Jon Entine, Earl Smith

>
> >>>>> Here are some reviews of the book....

>
> >>>>> Is there a genetic reason that African-Americans dominate professional
> >>>>> sports?

>
> I've heard it said that they have an extra muscle in the buttock or upper
> thigh area. It's a small advantage compared to the difference between male
> and female physiology. Every little bit helps.


i've seen that extra muscle blacks have on late night movies on cable
and it's pretty damn impressive.

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In talk.politics.guns "Vito" <vito@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
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>>>"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote
>>>No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.

>>
>>That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
>>forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.

>
> What seems unlikely is that you know shit about human physiology.


What are you saying? That there's no physiological difference that would
explain a decided advantage in some sports?



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Old 08-22-2008, 07:30 PM
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"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.


I would submit that we have more than sufficient
evidence of cranial cavities apparently being filled
by muscle or fat tissue, in the absence of anything else
to occupy that space.

Bob M.



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On Aug 22, 4:38*am, "Vito" <v...@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
> "Twibil" <jose.now...@gmail.com> wrote
> No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.
>
> That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
> forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.


Amazing. Simply amazing.

Your ignorance has no bounds whatsoever.

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Old 08-22-2008, 07:33 PM
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On Aug 22, 4:44*am, Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>
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> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:


> > "Extra muscles." ROFLMAO. No wonder you guys sit around your
> > single-wides sniffing glue all day.

>
> Oh, I don't know. Some of those neonazi pinheads have an "extra
> muscle" between their ears, where a brain would be in a sentient
> human.


Point of order: you can't call it a muscle because muscles perform
useful functions.

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On Aug 22, 8:32*am, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:

> there are definitely inherited differences between black and white
> americans. for instance, many white americans have inherited huge
> estates or banks or railroads etc. from their ancestors 150 years ago,
> while black americans seem incapable of doing so.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


He shoots, HE SCORES!

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Old 08-22-2008, 07:36 PM
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On Aug 22, 8:52*am, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>>No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.

>
> >>That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
> >>forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.

>
> > What seems unlikely is that you know shit about human physiology.

>
> What are you saying? That there's no physiological difference that would
> explain a decided advantage in some sports?


He's saying that there's no such thing as an "extra muscle", doofus.

Duh.

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kschadenfreude @comcast.net> wrote
> "Vito" <vito@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
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>>>"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote
>>>No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.

>>
>>That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
>>forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.

>
> What seems unlikely is that you know shit about human physiology.
>
> "Extra muscles." ROFLMAO. No wonder you guys sit around your
> single-wides sniffing glue all day.
>

So, unable to offer any information, you must resort to ad hominum attack.
That's always the sign of a liar.



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Old 08-22-2008, 09:50 PM
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"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote
Tim Miller <replytonewsgr...@invalid.invalid>wrote:
> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:


> > "Extra muscles." ROFLMAO. No wonder you guys sit around your
> > single-wides sniffing glue all day.

>
> Oh, I don't know. Some of those neonazi pinheads have an "extra
> muscle" between their ears, where a brain would be in a sentient
> human.


Point of order: you can't call it a muscle because muscles perform
useful functions.
--------------------------------------------------------
Then why do bones differ between races, if not to offer different muscle
attachments?



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Old 08-22-2008, 09:58 PM
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"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 22, 4:38 am, "Vito" <v...@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
> "Twibil" <jose.now...@gmail.com> wrote
> No human beings of any sort have any "extra muscles" anywhere.
>
> That seems unlikely because there are skeletal differences that allow
> forensic examiners to determine race even without a skull.


Amazing. Simply amazing.

Your ignorance has no bounds whatsoever.
========================================
Well then, educati me. Why do African (and afro American) bones differ from
Euro bones enough that a trained examiner can tell the difference.

I'd hate to find that you don't know and are talking thru your ass.



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Old 08-22-2008, 11:07 PM
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"Vito" <vito@xxcrosslink.net> wrote in message
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> ========================================
> Well then, educati me. Why do African (and afro American) bones differ
> from Euro bones enough that a trained examiner can tell the difference.


Educate yourself. Google is your friend.

http://www-personal.une.edu.au/~pbrown3/skeleton.pdf

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/87/7/3047

Were you really thinking that racial distinction of human bones,
at least as far as it can be done, would have to depend solely
on gross structural distinctions such as would come from "extra"
muscles?

Bob M.



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