The Older Gentleman wrote:
> J. Clarke <jclarke.usenet@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I'm curious, what does a motel room cost in NZ?
>
> More than a night in your trailer: less than a night in the George
> Cinq.

Gotta be a Harley rider, assuming that every motorcyclist has a
trailer.

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"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote in message
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>I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
>review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that
>the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
>
> Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long
> trips?
>
> I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
> looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
>
> I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
> just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
>
> --
> David T. Ashley (dta@e3ft.com)
> http://www.e3ft.com (Consulting Home Page)
> http://www.dtashley.com (Personal Home Page)
> http://gpl.e3ft.com (GPL Publications and Projects)

It depends on how you want to feel when you get to where you are going. A
Hayabusa or any crotch rocket will take you anywhere.

They're just supremely uncomfortable for any kind of long distance riding.

Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what kind
of bikes do you normally see?

I see mostly BMWs and Harleys.

--
Rev. Thumper Rabbitt

Minister and Prophet,
Church of Rec.Motorcycles®.




>

"Thumper" <roadapple@unclewebster.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what
> kind of bikes do you normally see?
>
> I see mostly BMWs and Harleys.
>
> --

And the occasional R1.

http://www.sjaaklucassen.nl/eng.html

In article <6-KdnbHqeZys5zDanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Jeff Mayner" <jeffmayner@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Road Glidin' Don wrote:
> > On Feb 8, 4:56 pm, "Andrew" <yogig.no.spamm.spam.n...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:ba423a43-1157-4f21-b94d-02481fc114ff@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.c
> >> om...
> >> On Feb 8, 11:58 am, "David T. Ashley" <d...@e3ft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long
> >>> trips?
> >>>>> Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip
> >>>>> myself - but studies have shown people who had themselves
> >>>>> neutered report they're quite comfy.
> >>
> >> So that's why chicks dig them!
> >
> > But... Wasn't Susan just saying something about pussies not fitting
> > on them?
>
> Oops.
>
> Timberwoof. :-(

Arou?

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Timberwoof wrote:
> In article <6-KdnbHqeZys5zDanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Jeff Mayner" <jeffmayner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Road Glidin' Don wrote:
>>> On Feb 8, 4:56 pm, "Andrew" <yogig.no.spamm.spam.n...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> messagenews:ba423a43-1157-4f21-b94d-02481fc114ff@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.c
>>>> om...
>>>> On Feb 8, 11:58 am, "David T. Ashley" <d...@e3ft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for
>>>>> long trips?
>>>>>>> Don't quote me on this - as I've never taken one on a long trip
>>>>>>> myself - but studies have shown people who had themselves
>>>>>>> neutered report they're quite comfy.
>>>>
>>>> So that's why chicks dig them!
>>>
>>> But... Wasn't Susan just saying something about pussies not fitting
>>> on them?
>>
>> Oops.
>>
>> Timberwoof. :-(
>
> Arou?

Not at the moment. Wife took care of things this morning. :-)

On Feb 9, 10:52*am, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:
> "David T. Ashley" <d...@e3ft.com> wrote in messagenews:54mdnZx2p-6iOzHanZ2dnUVZ_qmlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. *I noted in a
> >review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. *I also noted that
> >the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
>
> > Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long
> > trips?
>
> > I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. *It
> > looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
>
> > I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
> > just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
>
> > --
> > David T. Ashley * * * * * * *(d...@e3ft.com)
> >http://www.e3ft.com* * * * *(Consulting Home Page)
> >http://www.dtashley.com* * *(Personal Home Page)
> >http://gpl.e3ft.com* * * * *(GPL Publications and Projects)
>
> It depends on how you want to feel when you get to where you are going. A
> Hayabusa or any crotch rocket will take you anywhere.
>
> They're just supremely uncomfortable for any kind of long distance riding.

It depends how you define "crotch rocket." There are plenty of fast
sporty bikes that are very comfortable. Race replicas are a different
story.

On 2008-02-08 15:49:11 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> said:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Hl2rj.568730$kj1.505030@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> David T. Ashley wrote:
>>
>>> I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but
>>> I'd just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for
>>> traveling.
>>
>> Stick with your 600 cruiser for a few years first...
>
> I got the same advice from a guy at a Harley store in the Orlando airport.
> He said having a bike to learn on for a couple years is the right move
> before buying, for example, a Harley.
>
> Us old people (I'm 45) are generally clever enough to recognize when
> something is dangerous and to stay away from the edges of the envelope. A
> sportbike would be pure waste at my level of skill and testosterone. But
> I'd like to ride one once or twice just to know what the youngsters are
> doing and why. I would not do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. But 3.5 or 4 seconds
> would be a fun ride for me ...

I thought so too. Until an opportunity to buy a VF1000F Interceptor
came along for me. A nice clean early version of a sport bike that was
cheap enough to pay cash and get my money back if I didn't like it.
Sheeeeeeeet. That mofo was fun. Not too aggressive in the bar
position, but sporty enough to lead me further into temptation. I've
got an old Ninja in the garage that now belongs to the oldest boy and
I'm now in the market again. <g> Oh, I'm 50+.

On Feb 9, 7:52�am, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:

> Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what kind
> of bikes do you normally see?

The only motorcyclist I encountered in Egypt was riding an FJ1200. He
was dressed
for camel riding.

On 2008-02-08 19:15:32 -0500, Timberwoof
<timberwoof.spam@infernosoft.com> said:

> In article <Tx4rj.11$Uq4.7@trndny02>,
> "Susan \(CobbersMom\)" <dittohead1152@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "David T. Ashley" <> wrote in message >I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa
>> on their web page. > Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable
>> is it for long trips?
>>> I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
>>>> just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
>>
>>
>> Don't do it.
>> Think about it, where would you put the cat?
>
> Under the transmission, where it belongs.

Yer goin' straight to hell for that one.

On 2008-02-08 17:11:55 -0500, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) said:

> BryanUT <nestle12@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> BTW, I'm 51, It's not just kids that like sport bikes.
>
> *Waves*

*waves back*

/arm drops from cramp

<g>

<sleazy> wrote in message
news:47adf980$0$29783$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster. com...
> On 2008-02-08 15:49:11 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> said:
>
> I'm now in the market again. <g> Oh, I'm 50+.
>

What's wrong with the Terminator? That bikes seems to do it all.

Whatever you do, don't test ride a Ducati.

J. Clarke wrote:
> BrianNZ wrote:
>> Chuck Rhode wrote:
>>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:25:45 +1300, BrianNZ wrote:
>>>
>>>> I carry everything I need in my jacket pockets......shorts, floppy
>>>> hat, insect repellant sunscreen and a credit card.
>>> That packing list is appropriate for travel to a tropical island.
>>>
>> Well, living in a pacific paradise has it's benefits.
>>
>> My holidays are always taken during the sunny weather, and riding is
>> the focus, not sightseeing or going out at night, so there is no
>> need
>> to pack a bag. Motel/hotels are the only way to go....hot showers
>> and
>> a good sleep are a must!
>
> I'm curious, what does a motel room cost in NZ?
>


Anywhere from $75 to $150 depending on what town your'e staying in and
what 'quality' you want. You can get a small room in a country pub
(shared toilet/shower) for $50. Most caravan parks also have cabins for
hire.

On 2008-02-09 15:11:52 -0500, "BryanUT" <nestle12@comcast.net> said:

>
> <sleazy> wrote in message
> news:47adf980$0$29783$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster. com...
>> On 2008-02-08 15:49:11 -0500, "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> said:
>>
>> I'm now in the market again. <g> Oh, I'm 50+.
>>
>
> What's wrong with the Terminator? That bikes seems to do it all.
>
> Whatever you do, don't test ride a Ducati.

Small and light this time to complement the GS. I'm thinking 250 ish
like someone's Sherpa for tight single track, of which Michigan has a
metric shitload. There were a few on AdvRider, but long gone now that
I have folding persuasion. Of course.

On Feb 9, 2:33*pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:

SNIP

Or you sleep for free. ;^) No wake up calls, no check out times. No
dink next door snoring louder than the horns on a BNSF 100 car
train...

--
Keith S

laughing man wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2:33 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
> SNIP
>
> Or you sleep for free. ;^)


There are plenty of rest areas and beaches but the novelty of sleeping
in my bike gear would wear off. Emergencies only..........


> No wake up calls,


The sun!


> no check out times.


No shower.


> No
> dink next door snoring louder than the horns on a BNSF 100 car
> train...
>
> --
> Keith S
>
>


I am that snorer!

Don't get me wrong, I like camping and the great outdoors, but I'm not
into lugging around stuff on my bike. I'm lucky if I get a week off a
year for a decent ride and I'd rather sleep well at night before the
next days ride.

Looks like the Burt Munroe rally down South will be this years
destination. Road/track/beach racing with some speedway as well.
It should be a fun weekend down there with some awesome roads in between.

On Feb 9, 5:17*pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> laughing man wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 2:33 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > SNIP
>
> > Or you sleep for free. ;^)
>
> There are plenty of rest areas and beaches but the novelty of sleeping
> in my bike gear would wear off. Emergencies only..........

also campsites, here in the state there is KOA camps(not free but
cheap) right of ways under power lines the possabilities are endless
if you are creative. ;^)

>
> > No wake up calls,
>
> The sun!

Not if you are going to sleep at the crack of dawn!

> > no check out times.
>
> No shower.

Showers? I prefer a bath and it's not hard to find water...okay smart
aleck deserts don't count! 8^)

> > No
> > dink next door snoring louder than the horns on a BNSF 100 car
> > train...
>
> > --
> > Keith S
>
> I am that snorer! *

Long as you are louder than a freight or a 7.7 earthquak I can sleep
through it.

> Don't get me wrong, I like camping and the great outdoors, but I'm not
> into lugging around stuff on my bike. I'm lucky if I get a week off a
> year for a decent ride and I'd rather sleep well at night before the
> next days ride.
>
> Looks like the Burt Munroe rally down South will be this years
> destination. Road/track/beach racing with some speedway as well.
> It should be a fun weekend down there with some awesome roads in between.


That does sound fun! After 4mumblemumbel years I still enjoy sleeping
out.
--
Keith S

"." <RhiannonX@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 9, 7:52?am, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:

> Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what
> kind
> of bikes do you normally see?

The only motorcyclist I encountered in Egypt was riding an FJ1200. He
was dressed
for camel riding.

I'd like to hear more about an Egypt trip. Is there really a town called
Bumfick?

T.

"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote in message
news:54mdnZx2p-6iOzHanZ2dnUVZ_qmlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>I was looking at the Suzuki Hayabusa on their web page. I noted in a
>review that it does 0-60 in comfortably under 6 seconds. I also noted that
>the top speed is above that of my 1998 Ford Ranger 4-cylinder.
>
> Just for kicks, if I were to buy one, how comfortable is it for long
> trips?
>
> I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
> looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?
>
> I'd probably never get the throttle more than 40% the way I ride, but I'd
> just be curious what one is like and how practical it is for traveling.
>
> --
> David T. Ashley

You must be joking
Go to a motorcycle safety school first
Then buy a motorcycle appropriate to your new skills.

On Feb 9, 1:12 pm, "." <Rhiann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 7:52�am, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:
>
> > Let me put it this way. When your traveling out in bumfuck Egypt, what kind
> > of bikes do you normally see?
>
> The only motorcyclist I encountered in Egypt was riding an FJ1200. He

Are those get stolen as frequently over there as the FJs in the US?

On Feb 11, 2:45*pm, "Next"
SNIP
> You must be joking
> Go to a motorcycle safety school first
> Then buy a motorcycle appropriate to your new skills.


Oh and I suppose an idiot like you would suggest a Harley Davidson?
Sheesh get a brain/clue! DL650's make most excellent beginer bikes and
well...they are better than the Honda (non)equivalant.


--
Keith S
Y'all are on your own from here.

On 2/8/08 10:58 AM, "David T. Ashley" wrote:

> I've never even sat on a sportbike, so I have no idea how it feels. It
> looks like you are always leaning forward on your arms?

If you ride one for very long, you realize that leaning on your arms isn't a
good thing to do. It makes your arms, wrists and hands tired. It interferes
with your ability to steer the bike well.

The better method is to use your legs and torso to support your upper body
weight, allowing you to relax your arms and shoulders, and to keep a light
touch on the bars. This requires some leg and core body strength, but it
pays off well when you're riding.

I've never ridden a Hayabusa, so I can't comment first hand on how comfy I
found it. In general, I think most people will find anything comfortable
enough if they're suitably motivated. How much do you want to tour on a
sportbike compared to other alternatives? If you want it badly enough,
you'll find a way to enjoy it.

The biggest motivator for me to try sportbike touring was that I'm very
enamored with sportbike handling, and my touring trips are planned such that
I spend a lot of time on remote, twisty roads. I wanted nimble, lightweight,
and comfortable *enough* so that any discomfort I felt wouldn't be a
distraction or an impediment to my ability to cover distance in a day.

I'd already done touring on a so-called sport-tourer (ST1100), and while it
was far easier than touring on a sportbike, it was also far less fun. The
ST1100 is so quietly competent that it left me feeling a little disconnected
from the road and the ride. I was uninspired.

Riding an R1 is a very different experience than riding an ST1100. It
requires more diligence and effort in some ways, and makes you to sacrifice
certain comforts. But in the end I was willing to put forth the extra effort
and make the sacrifices in order to have more fun on the ride.

So how comfortable it is depends mostly on you. How comfortable do you need
to be?

--
Jamin






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[SpeedDaemon]

Cruisers / Tourers / Sports Tourers / Sports Bikes / Super Sports / Superbikes :

They have different names and different applications, and let's be honest; you shouldn't buy a Superbike to do a Tourer's job.

The whole point of a Busa is that IT IS A SUPERBIKE, and it does that 500 mile trip you're all talking about in less than 3 1/2 hours - that's not touring.

Let's face it - there's only two legitimate reasons for buying the Busa Superbike: 1/ the bragging rights to the fastest production bike on the planet; and or 2/ you ride your bikes closer to the redline than the idle.

I've owned my share of different bikes over the years - some 30 different machines, and hands down the GSX1300RZ is the one to have if you intend to get where you're going in a hurry.

If you want to look at the scenery and be comfortable get an FJR1300; more upright riding, all the panniers, and fairings, and it's no slow poke either. The FJR sounds more like what most people here are talking about - If you want to buy a Busa for the first reason I mentioned above, go ahead. But, be honest - most people, and by your own admissions, most of you, wouldn't even see the up side of 5,000 rpm on one of these beasts, let alone over the 10k rpm.

In the last three years of owning my delimited Busa the only things that have passed me are going the other way.
46 years of age; riding bikes for almost 40 of them - Busa'a are not to be triffled with if you intend to spin the handle.