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Old 06-24-2009, 03:26 PM
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Default I-469 lanes open hours after motorcycle-deer crash

I don't mean to be insensitive to the poor guy but what might have caused
them to take 3hrs 4 mins to clear the scene? I've seen bad auto accidents
with piles of metal to remove cleared faster. Was it a hard-to-reach place
(Fort Wayne, IN)?

http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/p...AL07/906249959
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Old 06-24-2009, 03:57 PM
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"DA" <info_at_air-space_dot_us@foo.com> wrote in message
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>I don't mean to be insensitive to the poor guy but what might have caused
> them to take 3hrs 4 mins to clear the scene? I've seen bad auto accidents
> with piles of metal to remove cleared faster. Was it a hard-to-reach place
> (Fort Wayne, IN)?
>
> http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/p...AL07/906249959


Be insensitive all you want. Certainly serious injury is regrettable, but
we all want answers to important questions like "how long does the head stay
alive after it is chopped off?".

I don't get it myself.

Extraction isn't an issue (like there might be with a car).

Investigation isn't an issue. The guy hit the deer. Who cares if he was
going 40 or 100? It just isn't potentially a criminal matter unless there
was a second vehicle involved. Deer don't get charged for reckless
behavior, so how it happened doesn't matter much.

And as far as charging the rider, that just won't happen. There won't be
enough evidence, and nobody has the heart to charge someone who is seriously
injured hitting a deer. Even if the rider was going 120 and they can prove
it, they probably won't mess with him.

Medical attention for the rider isn't normally an issue. Preparing him for
transport won't take but a couple tens of minutes.

Removal of the debris isn't an issue. As a bike only weighs several hundred
pounds, you can use any old method. It isn't a battle tank on the road.

So I give up.

??????

Datesfat


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Old 06-24-2009, 05:01 PM
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DA wrote:
> I don't mean to be insensitive to the poor guy but what might have
> caused
> them to take 3hrs 4 mins to clear the scene? I've seen bad auto
> accidents
> with piles of metal to remove cleared faster. Was it a hard-to-reach
> place
> (Fort Wayne, IN)?
>
> http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/p...AL07/906249959
> -------------------------------------


Maybe they had to hunt for his leg or something.

Am I in a cheerful mood or what?



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Old 06-24-2009, 07:27 PM
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On Jun 24, 8:57*am, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Be insensitive all you want. *Certainly serious injury is regrettable, but
> we all want answers to important questions like "how long does the head stay
> alive after it is chopped off?".


Around fifteen seconds.

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Old 06-24-2009, 08:18 PM
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On Jun 24, 11:01*am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> DA wrote:
> > I don't mean to be insensitive to the poor guy but what might have
> > caused
> > them to take 3hrs 4 mins to clear the scene? I've seen bad auto
> > accidents
> > with piles of metal to remove cleared faster. Was it a hard-to-reach
> > place
> > (Fort Wayne, IN)?

>
> >http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/p...=/20090624/LOC....
> > -------------------------------------

>
> Maybe they had to hunt for his leg or something.
>
> Am I in a cheerful mood or what?


I'd say yes you are...it's the "or something" that's worriesome.

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Old 06-24-2009, 08:57 PM
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"Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 24, 8:57 am, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Be insensitive all you want. Certainly serious injury is regrettable, but
> we all want answers to important questions like "how long does the head
> stay
> alive after it is chopped off?".


Around fifteen seconds.

===

But not conscious due to loss of blood pressure.



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Old 06-25-2009, 07:16 AM
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On 24 Jun 2009 15:26:05 GMT, info_at_air-space_dot_us@foo.com (DA)
wrote:

>I don't mean to be insensitive to the poor guy but what might have caused
>them to take 3hrs 4 mins to clear the scene? I've seen bad auto accidents
>with piles of metal to remove cleared faster. Was it a hard-to-reach place
>(Fort Wayne, IN)?
>
>http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/p...AL07/906249959
>-------------------------------------


Be glad it wasn't a cop. If a cop stubs his toe, it takes 8 hours to
clear the scene.

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Old 06-25-2009, 05:47 PM
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On Jun 24, 1:57*pm, "armpit" <armarmpit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > >Be insensitive all you want. Certainly serious injury is regrettable, but
> > >we all want answers to important questions like "how long does the head
> > >stay alive after it is chopped off?".

>
> > Around fifteen seconds.

>
> But not conscious due to loss of blood pressure.


Unfortunately wrong. Victims have been known to show signs of
awareness for up to 15 seconds or so following decapitation, although
I doubt anyone ever timed the events with a stopwatch.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...r-decapitation


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Old 06-25-2009, 07:17 PM
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DA wrote:
> I don't mean to be insensitive to the poor guy but what might have caused
> them to take 3hrs 4 mins to clear the scene? I've seen bad auto accidents
> with piles of metal to remove cleared faster. Was it a hard-to-reach place
> (Fort Wayne, IN)?


Since the guy is in critical condition, it's probably likely that he's
going to die or be severely disabled. That means there will be a
lawsuit by either him or his surviving family. Who will they sue? The
deer? No...they will sue the State of Indiana because it's an
interstate highway with controlled access fencing and there are not
supposed to be any deer there. So...that's what all of the time is
needed for...to do the accident investigation and gather the evidence
that will be used later.

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