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Old 07-01-2009, 01:38 AM
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:21 AM
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On 1 July, 02:38, davy12342 <ukpan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Campingwww.spammer.com


Sod off.

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Old 07-01-2009, 01:34 PM
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On Jul 1, 1:21*am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 1 July, 02:38, davy12342 <ukpan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Campingwww.spammer.com

>
> Sod off.


Unlike you Sutton lot, most motorcycle campers don't come back from
tenting together with bleeding arseholes.


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Old 07-01-2009, 03:47 PM
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On 1 July, 14:34, ¿ <macmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 1, 1:21*am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 1 July, 02:38, davy12342 <ukpan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Campingwww.spammer.com

>
> > Sod off.

>
> Unlike you Sutton lot, most motorcycle campers don't come back from
> tenting together with bleeding arseholes.


Oh dear, the stalker returns, but remains bereft of wit.

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Old 07-01-2009, 06:14 PM
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The older clown spewed:

> Oh dear, the stalker returns, but remains bereft of wit.


Returns? You never left. Well, you left uk.rec.moto
after your self aggrandizing idiocy helped destroy that
group, but you have yet to spare rec.moto your pompous
drivel and simple minded rants....


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Old 07-02-2009, 04:39 AM
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On Jul 1, 12:14*pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:

Your alledged sarcasm is as effective as you humor. You are still
moronic stalking cult memmber with no sense at all.

Not only that you aren't MAN enough to answer a simple question, well
excepting you sticking your fingers in your shit filled ears and
shouting "I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALALALALALALA"

Grow up, grow some fucking balls and answer the question as it was
asked AND show YOUR work. Not cut and paste from some schizophrenic
hypocephalic nincompoop.

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Old 07-02-2009, 04:59 PM
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Schiffner wrote:
> On Jul 1, 12:14 pm, Henry <9...@insidejob.gov> wrote:


> Your alledged sarcasm is as effective as you humor.


What are you referring to, and what's "you humor"?
You should learn how to quote when you reply to a
post. Here's how to do it. I'll start by quoting your
conspiracy idiocy, then I'll explain why it's idiocy.

> FYI none of your cites hold water to a rational thinking person.


They hold facts, hard evidence, science, physics, logic,
reality, expert research, and truth, which is why blind
faith cultists get so silly and hysterical when they're
challenged to find fault with them, or defend their comically
absurd magic fire/super Arab carton conspiracy theory.
People who are interested in the truth welcome an honest, open
dialog of the facts, evidence, and research. Ignorant, blind
faith cultists prefer to run and hide, spew stupid drivel, or
*simply* refuse to address the facts, evidence, and expert
research. It's *very* clear from your responses which camp you're
in...

Why do you "think" WTC7's entire hurricane, earthquake, and fire
resistant steel frame suddenly dropped at free fall speed? We know
that gradual heating can't cause that. Take a look for yourself.
WTC7 on the left - known demolition on the right. What you see are
two controlled demolitions. Gradual asymmetric heating can't possibly
do that to a hurricane and earthquake resistant, highly redundant
and resilient steel framed structure. It's an absurd and physically
impossible fantasy - even a form of insanity.

http://tinyurl.com/c8c3q4

Does it strike you as unusual that in spite of requests from
hundreds of people, NIST refused to test the evidence for
explosive residue of any kind? WTC7's "collapse" displayed all
the characteristics of a demolition (rapid, total, symmetric)
and none of fire related damage (gradual, partial, localized).
NIST says it didn't test for demolition because the loud
explosion that would have been heard during a conventional
demolition wasn't heard. But NIST knows a *lot* about modern
thermite technology, and they certainly know that nanothermite
has milder blast characteristics.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/v...and_Nano-1.pdf

"Was the steel tested for explosives or thermite residues?"
NIST did not test for the residue of these compounds in the
steel."
NIST Responses to FAQs, August 2006

"Regardless of how thermite materials were installed in the WTC,
it is strange that NIST has been so blind to any such possibility.
In fact, when reading NIST's reports on the WTC, and its periodic
responses to FAQs from the public, one might get the idea that no
one in the NIST organization had ever heard of nano-thermites before.
But the truth is, many of the scientists and organizations involved
in the NIST WTC investigation were not only well aware of
nano-thermites, they actually had considerable connection to, and
in some cases expertise in, this exact technology."

"Arden Bement, the metallurgist and expert on fuels and
materials who was nominated as director of NIST by President
George W. Bush in October 2001, was former deputy secretary
of defense, former director of DARPA's office of materials science,
and former executive at TRW. Of course, DOD and DARPA are both leaders
in the production and use of nanothermites (Amptiac 2002, DOD 2005)."



Let us know if you disagree with anything written below, and
if so, why. The writer proves that fires couldn't have caused
WTC7's fall, and he uses a clear, logical combination of evidence,
basic physics, and common sense to do it.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/l...geLastTry4.pdf


"If you think about the nature of the collapse, supposedly due to
fire weakening the steel, you will agree that it would only be
necessary to follow the early stages of the collapse to determine
its character. If heat is the cause, the steel will weaken gradually
and will start to sag in the region where the fire is most intense.
At that moment the steel will have almost enough strength to hold up
the weight of the building, but not quite. So we have the force of
gravity acting downwards, trying to produce an acceleration of 32
feet per second per second, and the force of the hot steel pushing
upwards, a force a bit less than that of gravity. Let us say we are
looking at it at the moment when the strength has declined to the
point where the steel is capable of pushing upwards with 90% of the
force required to hold the building up against gravity. There would
thus be a net downward force of 10% of gravity. Now acceleration is
proportional to force and we have a net force of 10% of gravity
so we would see an acceleration downwards of 3.2 feet per second
per second.
When you graph the data you find that the fall did not start with a
motion which could be ascribed to a small net force of that order.
The downward acceleration of the roof was very close to free fall
right from the start, 30 feet per second per second, and continued
at that rate until out of sight. There is no hint of a slow start.
This tells us that the steel supports went from adequate strength to
virtually no strength in an instant. For reasons stated above this is
absolutely impossible if the loss of strength is due to the application
of heat."





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Old 07-03-2009, 03:52 AM
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TOG@Toil wrote:

> Sod off.


The precise meaning of this typically British slang expression may
be unfamiliar to international readers although the unfriendly tone
is obvious in context.

It all started back in the Middle Ages with the turf-dwellers of
Romford, East London. These hard working peasant folk lived in low grass
covered houses on the banks of the Thames. In order to enter or leave
one of these squatts as they were known, a piece of turf or sod would be
lifted away from the door opening. The term "sod off" was thus coined
to mean "The door is open, feel free to leave". Interestingly the term
"sodding" was often used to refer to unwelcome guests due to the work of
lifting the sod to see who's there. This is still in common use today as
in "Oh bugger, it's the sodding Jehovah's Witnesses".

SQ

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Old 07-03-2009, 12:44 PM
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Sean_Q_ <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in news:h2jvan$9nb$1@aioe.org:

> TOG@Toil wrote:
>
>> Sod off.

>
> The precise meaning of this typically British slang expression may
> be unfamiliar to international readers although the unfriendly tone
> is obvious in context.
>
> It all started back in the Middle Ages with the turf-dwellers of
> Romford, East London. These hard working peasant folk lived in low grass
> covered houses on the banks of the Thames. In order to enter or leave
> one of these squatts as they were known, a piece of turf or sod would be
> lifted away from the door opening. The term "sod off" was thus coined
> to mean "The door is open, feel free to leave". Interestingly the term
> "sodding" was often used to refer to unwelcome guests due to the work of
> lifting the sod to see who's there. This is still in common use today as
> in "Oh bugger, it's the sodding Jehovah's Witnesses".
>
> SQ
>


I think you'll find it has its roots in sodomy.

When sod huts were being used in the region of Romford (if they ever were),
English wasn't a language yet.



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Old 07-03-2009, 01:53 PM
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Bob Mann wrote:

> When sod huts were being used in the region of Romford (if they ever were),
> English wasn't a language yet.


I don't know exactly when the sodding serfs of Romford were busy
inventing rude phrases for TOG's use, but Old English was spoken during
the Early Middle Ages and it evolved into Middle English by Chaucer's
time in the Later Middle Ages. That's when the Wife of Bath told her
pesky husband to sod off.

SQ

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Old 07-03-2009, 02:36 PM
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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:53:50 -0700, Sean_Q_ <no.spam@no.spam> wrote:

>... That's when the Wife of Bath told her
>pesky husband to sod off.


OED, I presume.

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Old 07-03-2009, 02:53 PM
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Turby wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:53:50 -0700, Sean_Q_ <no.spam@no.spam> wrote:
>
>> ... That's when the Wife of Bath told her
>> pesky husband to sod off.

>
> OED, I presume.


OED says Bob was probably correct:

sod (sQd), sb.3 [Short for sodomite.]
1 One who practises or commits sodomy. coarse slang.

2 a Used as a vulgar term of abuse for (usu.) a male person. Also with
weakened force, as the equivalent of `fellow', `chap', freq.
affectionately or in commiseration; odds and sods: see odds sb. 7 b.
b Something difficult; a great nuisance. slang.
c sod-all, nothing, no. Cf. all A. 8 f. slang.
d not to give a sod = not to give a damn s.v. damn sb. 2. slang.
e Sod's Law = Murphy's law s.v. Murphy2 3.

sod, v.3 slang. [f. sod sb.3]
1 trans. = damn v. 5.

2 intr. With off: to go away, depart. Also = get away s.v. get v. 61 b,
and fig. Usu. in imp.

OTOH it doesn't seem to mention the Wife of Bath telling the old man to
get lost. At least not that I can find, and I have a fairly high-power
OED search engine at my disposal.

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Old 07-03-2009, 03:48 PM
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Doug Payne wrote:

> OTOH it doesn't seem to mention the Wife of Bath telling the old man to
> get lost.


I didn't mean it all that literally. Actually, she socked him in the
face and knocked him into the fireplace.

SQ

788 And whan I saugh he wolde nevere fyne
And when I saw he would never cease
789 To reden on this cursed book al nyght,
Reading on this cursed book all night,
790 Al sodeynly thre leves have I plyght
All suddenly have I plucked three leaves
791 Out of his book, right as he radde, and eke
Out of his book, right as he read, and also
792 I with my fest so took hym on the cheke
I with my fist so hit him on the cheek
793 That in oure fyr he fil bakward adoun.
That in our fire he fell down backwards.

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Old 07-03-2009, 06:33 PM
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On Jul 3, 8:48*am, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:

> 790 * * * Al sodeynly thre leves have I plyght
> * * * * * * * * *All suddenly have I plucked three leaves


Main Entry: 1sud·den

Etymology: Middle English sodain, from Anglo-French sudain, from Latin
subitaneus, from subitus sudden, from past participle of subire to
come up, from sub- up + ire to go — more at sub-, issue

Date: 14th century

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Old 07-03-2009, 11:10 PM
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"Sean_Q_" <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in message news:h2l99n$p48$1@aioe.org...
> Doug Payne wrote:
>
>> OTOH it doesn't seem to mention the Wife of Bath telling the old man to
>> get lost.

>
> I didn't mean it all that literally. Actually, she socked him in the
> face and knocked him into the fireplace.


To keep things simple, maybe TOG should've just told the OP to fuck off? No
boring discussions needed.

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Old 07-04-2009, 12:20 AM
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Beav wrote:

> To keep things simple, maybe TOG should've just told the OP to fuck off? No
> boring discussions needed.


I recommend the Han Solo solution to boring conversations.

SQ

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Old 07-04-2009, 06:23 AM
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Sean_Q_ <no.spam@no.spam> wrote:

> Beav wrote:
>
> > To keep things simple, maybe TOG should've just told the OP to fuck off? No
> > boring discussions needed.

>
> I recommend the Han Solo solution to boring conversations.
>

Heh. I had to think about that for a while.


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Old 07-04-2009, 06:43 AM
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Sean_Q_ <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in news:h2l2ht$h3v$1@aioe.org:

> Bob Mann wrote:
>
>> When sod huts were being used in the region of Romford (if they ever
>> were), English wasn't a language yet.

>
> I don't know exactly when the sodding serfs of Romford were busy
> inventing rude phrases for TOG's use, but Old English was spoken
> during the Early Middle Ages and it evolved into Middle English by
> Chaucer's time in the Later Middle Ages. That's when the Wife of Bath
> told her pesky husband to sod off.
>
> SQ


Which, of course, ignores the fact that Romford, as with most of the UK,
has had proper building structures since well before the Middle Ages.

Romford has been a market town since 1247, and it holds the exclusive right
to hold markets over an area of radius "six and two thirds miles" centred
on Romford, a right granted in mediæval times.

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-
zone/europe/uk/england/county/essex/romford/

It's located on the Roman Road between London and Colchester, two original
settlements of the Romans.
Approx 2000 years ago.

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Bob Mann <bobmann@mtsremove.net> wrote:

> Romford has been a market town since 1247


Still is. Only it's no longer cooked geese, live animals and firkins of
ale that the jolly citizens of Romford sell.

No, these days they drive their herds of 1990s Fords, resprayed old
Mercedes and slightly iffy grey import 4x4s to Romford High Street, to
fleece the general populace.


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On Jul 4, 1:10*am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> Bob Mann <bobm...@mtsremove.net> wrote:
> > Romford has been a market town since 1247

>
> Still is. Only it's no longer cooked geese, live animals and firkins of
> ale that the jolly citizens of Romford sell.
>
> No, these days they drive their herds of 1990s Fords, resprayed old
> Mercedes and slightly iffy grey import 4x4s to Romford High Street, to
> fleece the general populace.


Ah in other words things haven't changed much since I were a wee lad
and Eddy the VIII was changing wives like a vegas show girl changing
outfits.

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Schiffner <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Ah in other words things haven't changed much since I were a wee lad
> and Eddy the VIII was changing wives like a vegas show girl changing
> outfits.


Henry, surely? Eddy 8 only ever had one, and she was a Septic.


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Old 07-04-2009, 05:43 PM
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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Henry, surely? Eddy 8 only ever had one


The gossip I read, he had several wives... they just weren't
married to *him*. (Freda Dudley Ward, Lady Furness, etc)

> and she was a Septic.


If History had gone down just a bit differently, Hitler would have
crossed the Channel and made her Queen of England, with Eddy as King.

I imagine she'd have enjoyed all the popular acclaim as Frau Quisling.

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Old 07-05-2009, 04:05 AM
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totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
news:1j2blbp.1tq7se31gaocnaN%totallydeadmailbox@ya hoo.co.uk:

> No, these days they drive their herds of 1990s Fords, resprayed old
> Mercedes and slightly iffy grey import 4x4s to Romford High Street, to
> fleece the general populace.
>


Including knock off West Ham parafanalia.

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On Jul 4, 6:41*am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> Schiffner <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Ah in other words things haven't changed much since I were a wee lad
> > and Eddy the VIII was changing wives like a vegas show girl changing
> > outfits.

>
> Henry, surely? Eddy 8 only ever had one, and she was a Septic.


<hangs head in shame> yes sir, henry sir. I'll just mark my demerits
in the book head to detention, Frau Blucher isn't holding it today is
she sir?

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On Jul 4, 10:05*pm, Bob Mann <bobm...@mtsremove.net> wrote:
> totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote innews:1j2blbp..1tq7se31gaocnaN%totallydeadmailbox @yahoo.co.uk:
>
> > No, these days they drive their herds of 1990s Fords, resprayed old
> > Mercedes and slightly iffy grey import 4x4s to Romford High Street, to
> > fleece the general populace.

>
> Including knock off West Ham parafanalia.


Now just a minute we can't have that! knock of those susex bastards
instead! By the by you were talking about the Dart teams weren't you?

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Old 07-05-2009, 06:16 AM
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Schiffner <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> <hangs head in shame> yes sir, henry sir. I'll just mark my demerits
> in the book head to detention, Frau Blucher isn't holding it today is
> she sir?


Yes, she is. And she tells me she considers you to be a Very. Naughty.
Boy.

Who must be Punished.

You lucky, lucky thing ;-)

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