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<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435

You won't believe this, but I have personal third-hand knowledge of this
case.

The crime apparently happened very near the residence of one of the local
pilots at the Marshall, Michigan airport.

The "rancher" cited is (according to the rumors I heard) a female law
enforcement officer in some capacity. Anyway, when she suspected that her
sheep were being improperly interacted with she made the right phone calls
to have DNA evidence collected. I believe this was a large factor in the
conviction.

I'll check my facts and post again if I have any more info. This is all
from a conversation I had a couple years ago.

Also (in a funny twist that relates it back to motorcycles), the pilot
involved is a first-time motorcycle rider this past year. He first bought a
125cc bike, didn't like it and traded it back for a 500cc bike, then didn't
like that and traded it back for the 1100cc or 1300cc bike he has now. This
all happened in the space of about 8 weeks. He helped make the dealership
(M&M Motor Mall in Kalamazoo) profitable this past year.

Small world.

"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote in message
news:0K-dnR1fgY5LY0fVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
> news:bsuld4ph6bml6rk1q0btt5ie1k745b3ing@4ax.com...
>>
>> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>
> You won't believe this, but I have personal third-hand knowledge of this
> case.
>
> The crime apparently happened very near the residence of one of the local
> pilots at the Marshall, Michigan airport.
>
> The "rancher" cited is (according to the rumors I heard) a female law
> enforcement officer in some capacity. Anyway, when she suspected that her
> sheep were being improperly interacted with she made the right phone calls
> to have DNA evidence collected. I believe this was a large factor in the
> conviction.
>
> I'll check my facts and post again if I have any more info. This is all
> from a conversation I had a couple years ago.
>
> Also (in a funny twist that relates it back to motorcycles), the pilot
> involved is a first-time motorcycle rider this past year. He first bought
> a 125cc bike, didn't like it and traded it back for a 500cc bike, then
> didn't like that and traded it back for the 1100cc or 1300cc bike he has
> now. This all happened in the space of about 8 weeks. He helped make the
> dealership (M&M Motor Mall in Kalamazoo) profitable this past year.
>
> Small world.

Yeah, looks like I got the major details right:

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/5625/MI/US/

I'm suspecting also that my memory is correct on the owner being a law
enforcement officer. Most members of the general public don't have the
training and experience to push to get a DNA sample taken in that set of
circumstances.

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:00:28 -0400, "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com>
wrote:

><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
>news:bsuld4ph6bml6rk1q0btt5ie1k745b3ing@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>
>You won't believe this, but I have personal third-hand knowledge of this
>case.
>
>The crime apparently happened very near the residence of one of the local
>pilots at the Marshall, Michigan airport.
>
>The "rancher" cited is (according to the rumors I heard) a female law
>enforcement officer in some capacity. Anyway, when she suspected that her
>sheep were being improperly interacted with she made the right phone calls
>to have DNA evidence collected. I believe this was a large factor in the
>conviction.

Either that, or the sheep had a blue dress on :-)

>
>I'll check my facts and post again if I have any more info. This is all
>from a conversation I had a couple years ago.
>
>Also (in a funny twist that relates it back to motorcycles), the pilot
>involved is a first-time motorcycle rider this past year. He first bought a
>125cc bike, didn't like it and traded it back for a 500cc bike, then didn't
>like that and traded it back for the 1100cc or 1300cc bike he has now. This
>all happened in the space of about 8 weeks. He helped make the dealership
>(M&M Motor Mall in Kalamazoo) profitable this past year.

And likely the local hospital :-)


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<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>Also (in a funny twist that relates it back to motorcycles), the pilot
>>involved is a first-time motorcycle rider this past year. He first bought
>>a
>>125cc bike, didn't like it and traded it back for a 500cc bike, then
>>didn't
>>like that and traded it back for the 1100cc or 1300cc bike he has now.
>>This
>>all happened in the space of about 8 weeks. He helped make the dealership
>>(M&M Motor Mall in Kalamazoo) profitable this past year.
>
> And likely the local hospital :-)

The guy is about 65 years old. I strongly suggested that he take the MSF
course, but he wouldn't have any part of it. Anyway, as best I can tell, he
is a safe rider. I see him tooling around on the bike at the airport from
time to time.

He isn't a reckless idiot. By all accounts, he is a very conservative
pilot. That comes with being 65, I think.

<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote:

> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435

Good God.

"Think of the lambs!"


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..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>
>


We don't sodomise our sheep.........

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:27:07 +0100, totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

><.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote:
>
>> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>
>Good God.
>
>"Think of the lambs!"

I think he thought of them a little bit too much already.

And he COMPLETELY misunderstood the appropriate use of mint
jelly ....


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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:26 +1200, BrianNZ <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote:

>.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>>
>>
>
>
>We don't sodomise our sheep.........

And they'll swear to it !

Bahahahahahahaha.....


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..p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:26 +1200, BrianNZ <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> And they'll swear to it !


Fuckn oath!


>
> Bahahahahahahaha.....
>
>


More like baa-aaaaahh!!!

"BrianNZ" <> wrote in message > We don't sodomise our sheep.........

They're consenting?
Sue
Minocqua, WI
Yamaha '00 VStar 650
'04 TW200 (mud = fun)
Kawasaki '95 Vulcan 1500 V#15937
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Light days - Glock 27 w/ Crimson Trace
Heavy days - Ruger Redhawk .44 mag

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:26 +1200, BrianNZ <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote:

>We don't sodomise our sheep.........

How about the neighbour's sheep?

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"Susan \(CobbersMom\)" <dittohead1152@yahoo.com> wrote in news:7UKCk.1367
$MN3.564@nwrddc01.gnilink.net:

> Subject: Re: OK - WHO let the judges from New Zealand in ?????
> From: "Susan \(CobbersMom\)" <dittohead1152@yahoo.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
> Reply-To: "Susan \(CobbersMom\)" <dittohead1152@yahoo.com>
>
> "BrianNZ" <> wrote in message > We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> They're consenting?
> Sue
>

Disinterested? Apathetic?
At least that's what they think Bah! means.

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Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.

"David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com> wrote in message
news9qdnb6399RonEbVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@giganews.com ...
> He isn't a reckless idiot. By all accounts, he is a very conservative
> pilot. That comes with being 65, I think.

Probably the other way around.

"There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there
are no old, bold pilots."

Bob M.

On Sep 25, 8:31*am, "Bob Myers" <nospample...@address.invalid> wrote:

> "There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there
> are no old, bold pilots."

In truth there *are* a few "old bold" pilots, and I've ridden with a
couple; but to accurate you'd have to call them "old, bold, and
*lucky* pilots".

You know: the sort that fall into an outhouse and regularly come up
with a rose between their teeth.

Never play poker with these guys.

Susan (CobbersMom) wrote:
> "BrianNZ" <> wrote in message > We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> They're consenting?
> Sue
> Minocqua, WI
> Yamaha '00 VStar 650
> '04 TW200 (mud = fun)
> Kawasaki '95 Vulcan 1500 V#15937
> Feminine Protection:
> Light days - Glock 27 w/ Crimson Trace
> Heavy days - Ruger Redhawk .44 mag
>
>


Different hole!......maybe the homos do?

Jack Hunt wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:26 +1200, BrianNZ <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> How about the neighbour's sheep?
>
> --
> Jack


"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours sheep"

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:48:28 +1200, BrianNZ <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote:

>Jack Hunt wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:26 +1200, BrianNZ <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>>
>> How about the neighbour's sheep?
>>
>> --
>> Jack
>
>
>"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours sheep"

'The Lord layeth you down in green pastures' - that may or
may not be previously occupied ?


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"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>On Sep 25, 8:31 am, "Bob Myers" <nospample...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there
>> are no old, bold pilots."
>
>In truth there *are* a few "old bold" pilots, and I've ridden with a
>couple; but to accurate you'd have to call them "old, bold, and
>*lucky* pilots".
>
>You know: the sort that fall into an outhouse and regularly come up
>with a rose between their teeth.
>
>Never play poker with these guys.

BTW, I saw the guy today, and we talked about the recent sheep news. He
gave me more details.

Everything below is somewhat unreliable, as it is word of mouth ...

The sheep owner is apparently a police officer in Albion, Michigan. She had
to push very hard to get DNA evidence collected from the sheep (the other
law enforcement types didn't want to do it initially).

According to rumor, the police officer also had a really rude woman-to-woman
talk with the guy's girlfriend. Something along the lines of "Are you sure
you want to be with this guy when he is doing sheep?".

This is all word-of-mouth stuff ...

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:04:25 -0400, "David T. Ashley" <dta@e3ft.com>
wrote:

>"Twibil" <jose.noway6@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0afd07b7-ad09-4d21-825f-7364fd9e8b13@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>On Sep 25, 8:31 am, "Bob Myers" <nospample...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> "There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there
>>> are no old, bold pilots."
>>
>>In truth there *are* a few "old bold" pilots, and I've ridden with a
>>couple; but to accurate you'd have to call them "old, bold, and
>>*lucky* pilots".
>>
>>You know: the sort that fall into an outhouse and regularly come up
>>with a rose between their teeth.
>>
>>Never play poker with these guys.
>
>BTW, I saw the guy today, and we talked about the recent sheep news. He
>gave me more details.
>
>Everything below is somewhat unreliable, as it is word of mouth ...
>
>The sheep owner is apparently a police officer in Albion, Michigan. She had
>to push very hard to get DNA evidence collected from the sheep (the other
>law enforcement types didn't want to do it initially).

Gee, I don't know why !

"Lady ...you want me to do WHAT to this sheep ??? You want me
to stick my arm WHERE ????? I don't care if you DO have a gun !'


>
>According to rumor, the police officer also had a really rude woman-to-woman
>talk with the guy's girlfriend. Something along the lines of "Are you sure
>you want to be with this guy when he is doing sheep?".
>
>This is all word-of-mouth stuff ...




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David T. Ashley <dta@e3ft.com> wrote:

> This is all word-of-mouth stuff ...

And none the worse for it :-)))


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On Sep 25, 9:31*am, "Bob Myers" <nospample...@address.invalid> wrote:
> "David T. Ashley" <d...@e3ft.com> wrote in messagenews9qdnb6399RonEbVnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@gigan ews.com...
>
> > He isn't a reckless idiot. *By all accounts, he is a very conservative
> > pilot. *That comes with being 65, I think.
>
> Probably the other way around.
>
> "There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there
> are no old, bold pilots."
>
> Bob M.

heh, I wouldn't call Bob Hoover or Chuck Yeager exactly wallflowers or
Patti Wagstaff for that matter.

On Sep 24, 10:27*pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> <.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote:
> >http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>
> Good God.
>
> "Think of the lambs!"

I am, I am and oh they'd cook up nicely on the grill. Not to mention
the lamb breasts, the haggis...sheeps head surprise. Oh it's just
delicious. Mmmm, think I'll check the deep freeze and see which lamb
part is going to be din-din tommorow.
--
Keith

On Sep 24, 10:27*pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> >http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>
> We don't sodomise our sheep.........

Yep it's only sodomy if you get oral or anal...well according to the
old basque sheepherded I know.

--
Keith

On Sep 25, 5:48*am, "Susan \(CobbersMom\)" <dittohead1...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "BrianNZ" <> wrote in message > We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> They're consenting?

You seem surprised. ROTFLMAO!

--
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On Sep 25, 1:48*pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> Jack Hunt wrote:
> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:26 +1200, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >> We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> > How about the neighbour's sheep?
>
> > --
> > Jack
>
> "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours sheep"

You are correct! Her sheep are bony and not ready for market. Unlike
the two I got back in aug. Nice and large, good muscles and they
didn't get nervous untill the knife was against their necks.
--
keith

S'mee wrote:
> On Sep 24, 10:27 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>> We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> Yep it's only sodomy if you get oral or anal...well according to the
> old basque sheepherded I know.
>
> --
> Keith


I stand corrected..... sodomy includes beastiality and oral! my , what a
sheltered life i have led......

On Sep 26, 7:16*am, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> S'mee wrote:
> > On Sep 24, 10:27 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> >> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> >>>http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
> >> We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>
> > Yep it's only sodomy if you get oral or anal...well according to the
> > old basque sheepherded I know.
>
> > --
> > Keith
>
> I stand corrected..... sodomy includes beastiality and oral! my , what a
> sheltered life i have led......
<baffled>
WHERE did I mention beastiality?

We can't cut ol' Krusty off now, can we? Those prudish rules were set
up by xstians.
--
Keith

S'mee wrote:
> On Sep 26, 7:16 am, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>> S'mee wrote:
>>> On Sep 24, 10:27 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>>> .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>>>> http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...ETRO/809240435
>>>> We don't sodomise our sheep.........
>>> Yep it's only sodomy if you get oral or anal...well according to the
>>> old basque sheepherded I know.
>>> --
>>> Keith
>> I stand corrected..... sodomy includes beastiality and oral! my , what a
>> sheltered life i have led......
> <baffled>
> WHERE did I mention beastiality?
>
> We can't cut ol' Krusty off now, can we? Those prudish rules were set
> up by xstians.
> --
> Keith


I was under he impression that sodomy was just anal, then you go throw
oral in there and I just had to google it.....where it shows beastiality
is sodomy as well (where I was thinking from the article the guy was
doing the sheep anally!)

Dnia 2008-09-26 BrianNZ napisa³(a):
>
> I was under he impression that sodomy was just anal, then you go throw
> oral in there and I just had to google it.....where it shows beastiality
> is sodomy as well

Just to think you were talking prose all those years without ever realizing
it!

> (where I was thinking from the article the guy was
> doing the sheep anally!)

You take him for a pervert, or what?

--
Andrzej Rosa