....with a fetish for viewing pix of dead deer and damaged bikes.

The writer, Eric Rossiter (_Kansas City Motorcycle Examiner_) says
"slow down", amongst other ruminant-avoidance advice.

Well, great in theory, but do that too much or too often and don't
you risk getting rear-ended by some impatient or distracted cager?
Actually I find his writing style irritating, so read this only if
you're in the mood for aggravation:

http://www.examiner.com/x-3640-Kansa...e-strikes-deer

SQ

"Sean_Q_" <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in message news:h6b5qa$69i$1@aioe.org...
> ...with a fetish for viewing pix of dead deer and damaged bikes.
>
> The writer, Eric Rossiter (_Kansas City Motorcycle Examiner_) says
> "slow down", amongst other ruminant-avoidance advice.
>
> Well, great in theory, but do that too much or too often and don't
> you risk getting rear-ended by some impatient or distracted cager?
> Actually I find his writing style irritating, so read this only if
> you're in the mood for aggravation:
>
> http://www.examiner.com/x-3640-Kansa...e-strikes-deer

I don't find him that annoying. The suggestions were sound.

I think the "no swerve" recommendation really depends on the situation and
the skill of the rider. I know one guy who went highly evasive on an
imminent deer collision -- he ended up slightly unjuring his leg because he
clipped the deer with his leg but otherwise stayed upright. For him,
swerving worked out alright (a bruise is better than scrapping a bike and
maybe getting seriously injured). But it could have also turned out badly.

I almost struck a fawn the other day. I was really disappointed in my level
of skill.

The little beast went from left to right across the road. I stood on the
brakes and accidentally locked up the rear. I started at about 50 and was
probably down to 25 with the rear wheel skidding when the thing went across
my bow from left to right. I missed it by no more than 24 inches.

What disappointed me about my response is that I should probably have also
gone left rather than brake in a straight line. I think what screwed with
me mentally is that it was a moving object that I perceived as
unpredicatable. Something mentally told me to not to go left and count on
it continuing right.

It was a good day for me and the beast both.

Datesfat

On Aug 17, 6:49 am, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I almost struck a fawn the other day. I was really disappointed in my level
> of skill.
>
> The little beast went from left to right across the road. I stood on the
> brakes and accidentally locked up the rear. I started at about 50 and was
> probably down to 25 with the rear wheel skidding when the thing went across
> my bow from left to right. I missed it by no more than 24 inches.

> Something mentally told me to not to go left and count on
> it continuing right.

I had a similar scare from a fawn a week or so earlier.
Fawns make adult deer look positively brilliant and they're
out in force this time of year.

In general, I think you're better off trying to go behind an
animal, but it's one of those situations where you have to
just commit and go with your choice without a lot of analysis.

"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol.com> wrote
> In general, I think you're better off trying to go behind an
> animal, but it's one of those situations where you have to
> just commit and go with your choice without a lot of analysis.

If going ahead, try shouting. Deer will oft stop and turn back.

"Vito" <vito@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4a8990c2$0$5683$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol.com> wrote
>> In general, I think you're better off trying to go behind an
>> animal, but it's one of those situations where you have to
>> just commit and go with your choice without a lot of analysis.
>
> If going ahead, try shouting. Deer will oft stop and turn back.

Interesting. Has anyone tried the horn?

Datesfat

On Aug 17, 10:17 am, "Vito" <v...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote
>
> > In general, I think you're better off trying to go behind an
> > animal, but it's one of those situations where you have to
> > just commit and go with your choice without a lot of analysis.
>
> If going ahead, try shouting. Deer will oft stop and turn back.

I would think if there's time for you to shout and for the
deer to react and change direction, there's also time to
bring the bike down to a controlled speed where you're
not in danger.

Every near miss I've ever had, I'm pretty sure I was too
close when the deer entered the road for this to have worked.

"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128@aol.com> wrote
"Vito" <v...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote
>>
>> > In general, I think you're better off trying to go behind an
>> > animal, but it's one of those situations where you have to
>> > just commit and go with your choice without a lot of analysis.
>>
>> If going ahead, try shouting. Deer will oft stop and turn back.
>
> I would think if there's time for you to shout and for the
> deer to react and change direction, there's also time to
> bring the bike down to a controlled speed where you're
> not in danger.
>
> Every near miss I've ever had, I'm pretty sure I was too
> close when the deer entered the road for this to have worked.

Didn't mean to imply "instead of stopping".

Maybe I've been lucky or, having lived with them for 25 years, just a tad
more observant but I've spotted them before they were actually in the road
on the few close calls I've had and, unlike the horn, shouting is
instinctive. One can shout in the time it takes to start slowing. On one
occasion the deer turned and ran alongside before falling on the slippery
(to his hooves) pavement. He'd have ran into me had he not turned.
Naturally YMMV.

On Aug 17, 1:52 pm, "Vito" <v...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote
>
>
>
> "Vito" <v...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...@aol.com> wrote
>
> >> > In general, I think you're better off trying to go behind an
> >> > animal, but it's one of those situations where you have to
> >> > just commit and go with your choice without a lot of analysis.
>
> >> If going ahead, try shouting. Deer will oft stop and turn back.
>
> > I would think if there's time for you to shout and for the
> > deer to react and change direction, there's also time to
> > bring the bike down to a controlled speed where you're
> > not in danger.
>
> > Every near miss I've ever had, I'm pretty sure I was too
> > close when the deer entered the road for this to have worked.
>
> Didn't mean to imply "instead of stopping".
>
> Maybe I've been lucky or, having lived with them for 25 years, just a tad
> more observant but I've spotted them before they were actually in the road
> on the few close calls I've had and, unlike the horn, shouting is
> instinctive. One can shout in the time it takes to start slowing. On one
> occasion the deer turned and ran alongside before falling on the slippery
> (to his hooves) pavement. He'd have ran into me had he not turned.
> Naturally YMMV.

Maybe your deer are smarter than the ones out here.
I've had them spot me and start running away straight
down the road. I figure the bike makes enough noise
already and don't usually expect any very intelligent
reaction from the deer.

I think I've only had one or two close calls in my life,
but those were from out of the woods on one side
of the road back into the woods on the other. Very
hard to see and anticipate.

Whatever works for you, more power to you.

On Aug 17, 2:53*am, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:

> http://www.examiner.com/x-3640-Kansa...xaminer~y2009m...

Yeah what the fuck ever...I guess it might work for everyone else. As
for me I just quit giving a shit what deer do. I ride, if they choose
to commit suicide by motorcycle I don't care. They step in front I'm
cracking the throttle WFO and hell can have the hindmost. The odd
thing is ever since I copped the attitude, for me they either stay off
the road or stay far away. Then take out a car or two behind me...yeah
seen that in the mirror. Just another dumb cager.