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Old 12-23-2008, 12:57 AM
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Deer Roping
For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!

I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The
first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since
they congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear
of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and
sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4
feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and
toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and
transport it home. I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end
with my rope. The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed
well back. They were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes, my
deer showed up -- 3 of them. I picked out a likely looking one,
stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw my rope? The deer
just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around my waist
and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just
stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned
about the whole rope situation. I took a step towards it... It took a
step away. I put a little tension on the rope and then received an
education. The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may
just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are
spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope. That deer
EXPLODED. The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer
is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight
range I could fight down with a rope and with some dignity. A deer --
no chance. That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was
no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it? As it jerked
me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred
to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I
had originally imagined. The only up side is that they do not have as
much stamina as many other animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was
tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when
I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I
was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my
head. At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just
wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope. I figured
if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would
likely die slow and painfully somewhere? At the time, there was no
love at all between that deer and me. At that moment, I hated the
thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.
Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had
cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against
various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still
think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I
shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were
in, so I didn’t want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I
managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a
little trap I had set before hand...kind of like a squeeze chute. I
got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope
back. Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years
would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very
surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer
grabbed hold of my wrist. Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like
being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer
bites you and shakes its head -- almost like a pit bull. They bite
HARD and it hurts. The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is
probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking
instead? My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting
and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several
seconds. I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning
that claim by now), tricked it. While I kept it busy tearing the
tendons out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled
that rope loose. That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior
for the day. Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear
right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder
level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time
ago that, when an animal -- like a horse -- strikes at you with their
hooves and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to
make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This
will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape. This was
not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would not
work? In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy?
I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run. The reason I had
always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at
you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of
the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides
being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned
to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.
Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not
immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has
passed.? What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on
you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering
your head.
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Not me, not anyone I know.
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Keith

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Old 12-23-2008, 01:20 AM
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"S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>Deer Roping
>For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!
>
>I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
>feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.


<SNIP>

First of all, why antagonize deer? Period. Being a wild animal, it has
enough hardship in its life.

Does anyone really need to capture, fatten, kill, and eat a deer?

Seriously, why do it?

Second, if anyone is going to pull a stupid and sadistic stunt like that, it
would have made sense to have a second person standing by with a 12-gauge to
end it quickly if anything got out of control. Not having backup was
stupid.

On the factual side ...

I've never really contemplated the issue of how a herbivore like a deer (or
a horse) might bite. I'm sure they can draw blood, but I would guess the
teeth aren't really suited for anything but crush injuries. The
side-to-side shaking motion is a bit of a surprise, if this is accurate.

The moron who wrote this deserves to die. Anyone who antagonizes a wild
creature without a decisive backup plan deserves what they get. I'm
actually sorry that he lived to write about it. Death by deer hoof seems
appropriate.

The Lizard


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Old 12-23-2008, 02:07 AM
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On Dec 22, 7:20*pm, "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9c86e6f7-b8cd-462b-ab90-28fe84377a7d@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Deer Roping
> >For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!

>
> >I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
> >feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.

>
> <SNIP>
>
> First of all, why antagonize deer? *Period. *Being a wild animal, it has
> enough hardship in its life.
>
> Does anyone really need to capture, fatten, kill, and eat a deer?
>
> Seriously, why do it?
>
> Second, if anyone is going to pull a stupid and sadistic stunt like that,it
> would have made sense to have a second person standing by with a 12-gaugeto
> end it quickly if anything got out of control. *Not having backup was
> stupid.
>
> On the factual side ...
>
> I've never really contemplated the issue of how a herbivore like a deer (or
> a horse) might bite. *I'm sure they can draw blood, but I would guess the
> teeth aren't really suited for anything but crush injuries. *The
> side-to-side shaking motion is a bit of a surprise, if this is accurate.
>
> The moron who wrote this deserves to die. *Anyone who antagonizes a wild
> creature without a decisive backup plan deserves what they get. *I'm
> actually sorry that he lived to write about it. *Death by deer hoof seems
> appropriate.
>
> The Lizard


Your satire of the PETA losers is dually noted. You are getting better
at satire. That or your humor bone is done busted good.

--

Keith

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Old 12-23-2008, 03:19 AM
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"S'mee" <> wrote in message Deer Roping
For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!
I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.

Been seeing this story off and on for a few years, each time just as funny.
But not true as I can speak from experience. I've had horses on the end of
a rope AND a wild 8 pt. buck and the deer isn't nearly as strong as a cow or
horse. They just don't have the weight.
Long story short, a friend and I happened upon what we thought was a dead
buck on the side of the road. Saw it's eyes open but not move so stupidly I
put one of my horse ropes looped around it's neck just to keep it from
stumbling into the road if it tried to struggle up. We forgot our cell
phones so Kim drives my truck to find a house where she can call a cop to
dispatch it. While she's gone, the deer started coming around. I guess
what we thought might be an almost a fatal injury was a glancing blow to the
head. Anyway, he got up and acted like a bucking horse. I didn't want to
let go of the rope and have it tangle in the woods. After a few times of
doing this and him still injured, he layed down to rest. I came up to him
on the non hoof side and slowly untied the rope and slid it off his neck.
He got up and ran into the woods. No meat for me that day.
Sue
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:05 AM
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On Dec 22, 6:20*pm, "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The moron who wrote this deserves to die.


Oh dear. (Deer.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

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Old 12-23-2008, 06:17 AM
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On Dec 22, 8:19*pm, "Susan \(CobbersMom\)" <dittohead1...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> Been seeing this story off and on for a few years, each time just as funny.
> But not true as I can speak from experience. *I've had horses on the end of
> a rope AND a wild 8 pt. buck and the deer isn't nearly as strong as a cowor
> horse. *They just don't have the weight.
> Long story short, a friend and I happened upon what we thought was a dead
> buck on the side of the road. *Saw it's eyes open but not move so stupidly I
> put one of my horse ropes looped around it's neck just to keep it from
> stumbling into the road if it tried to struggle up. *We forgot our cell
> phones so Kim drives my truck to find a house where she can call a cop to
> dispatch it. *While she's gone, the deer started coming around. *I guess
> what we thought might be an almost a fatal injury was a glancing blow to the
> head. *Anyway, he got up and acted like a bucking horse. *I didn't want to
> let go of the rope and have it tangle in the woods. *After a few times of
> doing this and him still injured, he layed down to rest. *I came up to him
> on the non hoof side and slowly untied the rope and slid it off his neck.
> He got up and ran into the woods. *No meat for me that day.


It ain't just the hooves that are dangerous, either. Friend of mine's
Grandpa was killed in his own back yard by a buck that he'd shot with
a .22, hoping for some free venison.

The buck was wounded but not killed, charged Grandpa, and put an
antler-point into his aorta just below the rib cage.

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Old 12-23-2008, 10:23 AM
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"Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 22, 6:20 pm, "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The moron who wrote this deserves to die.
>
>Oh dear. (Deer.)
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire


I didn't mean that like it is written.

What I meant was that the person deserves to die from their own stupidity.
If you antagonize a wild animal and it has a little more fight in it than
you imagined, whose fault is that?

Wasn't there some bear researcher or advocate killed in the last few years
by bears (some famous guy)? Same thing there. If you spend a lot of time
around bears, sooner or later, one of them will figure out "Hey, that's not
another bear--that's food!". Stupidity.

I'm not a PETA nutjob. I just don't see why any sane person would want to
rope a deer.

The Lizard


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"S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> The moron who wrote this deserves to die. Anyone who antagonizes a wild
> creature without a decisive backup plan deserves what they get. I'm
> actually sorry that he lived to write about it. Death by deer hoof seems
> appropriate.
>
> The Lizard
>
>Your satire of the PETA losers is dually noted. You are getting better
>at satire. That or your humor bone is done busted good.


I see the humor in it.

But in a best case this idiot has lowered the quality of life for some wild
animal, and not out of necessity.

Trying to rope a deer redefines puerile. That is a stunt for 18-year-olds
who have found the key to the liquor cabinet.

Totally unnecessary.

The Lizard


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Old 12-23-2008, 10:35 AM
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"Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>It ain't just the hooves that are dangerous, either. Friend of mine's
>Grandpa was killed in his own back yard by a buck that he'd shot with
>a .22, hoping for some free venison.
>
>The buck was wounded but not killed, charged Grandpa, and put an
>antler-point into his aorta just below the rib cage.


With respect to bison injuries, I read that something like ten times as many
people worldwide are injured and killed by herbivores than carnivores.

[Some] people assume that since it doesn't want to eat you it is like Bambi
and wants to be your friend. Um ... no. It is equally foolish to assume
that it won't get annoyed when you shoot it.

Aortal injuries don't normally do well unless the buck just happened to
attack right outside a hospital emergency room with the surgeon on standby
for another reason. For aortal aneurysm (hope I spelled that right), when
they burst the overall survival rate is something like 15%. I have to
assume that penetration with a deer antler has about the same effect.

The Lizard


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"Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote
> Second, if anyone is going to pull a stupid and sadistic stunt like that,
> it would have made sense to have a second person standing by with a
> 12-gauge


Chuckle. Reminds me of a comedy skit. Dude locked in mortal combat with a
bobcat yells "shoot!". His buddy says "But I might hit you". "Shoot
anyway - one of us has gotta get some relief!"



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Old 12-23-2008, 11:43 AM
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"Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote
> But in a best case this idiot has lowered the quality of life for some
> wild animal, and not out of necessity.
>

True, but the same can be said for all hunting and fishing, camping and
hiking, and even suburban sprawl. The humor is in the guy's foolishness -
nobody doubts it. Lighten up.

A French journalist interviewing an American hunter wondered what a deer
thought when he saw a hunter - did he wonder if the hunter was his friend?

Naw, replied the hunter, deer don't have those kind of thoughts. All they
think is 'Can I eat it, fuck it or outrun it?' .... just like the French,



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"Vito" <vito@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote
>> But in a best case this idiot has lowered the quality of life for some
>> wild animal, and not out of necessity.
>>

> True, but the same can be said for all hunting and fishing, camping and
> hiking, and even suburban sprawl. The humor is in the guy's foolishness -
> nobody doubts it. Lighten up.
>
> A French journalist interviewing an American hunter wondered what a deer
> thought when he saw a hunter - did he wonder if the hunter was his friend?
>
> Naw, replied the hunter, deer don't have those kind of thoughts. All they
> think is 'Can I eat it, make love with it or outrun it?' .... just like
> the French,


Conan O'Brien (spelling) had a similar piece of humor on his show.

Some kangaroo at some zoo did something heroic (I think it aided a human
child) and they had presented it with an award.

O'Brien said something like, "And here's Skippy receiving his award, or, as
he likes to think of it, 'not food'.".

Animals view the world in a simplified framework--that is for sure.

The a)is it food? b)is it a mate? c)does it want me for food? is pretty
accurate.

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"Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote in
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> "Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8aecadc9-dffc-481d-a278-0c6e70c0b791@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com..
> . On Dec 22, 6:20 pm, "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The moron who wrote this deserves to die.
>>
>>Oh dear. (Deer.)
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

>
> I didn't mean that like it is written.
>
> What I meant was that the person deserves to die from their own
> stupidity. If you antagonize a wild animal and it has a little more
> fight in it than you imagined, whose fault is that?
>
> Wasn't there some bear researcher or advocate killed in the last few
> years by bears (some famous guy)? Same thing there. If you spend a
> lot of time around bears, sooner or later, one of them will figure out
> "Hey, that's not another bear--that's food!". Stupidity.
>
> I'm not a PETA nutjob. I just don't see why any sane person would
> want to rope a deer.
>
> The Lizard
>
>


It's humour. It doesn't have to make sense.
It's made up, it didn't really happen.
Nobody but you took it seriously.

There really is a humour gene and you, apparently, don't have it.

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"Bob Mann" <bobmann@mtsremove.net> wrote in message
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> "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:i5mdnbolicuLV83UnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@giganews.com :
>
>> "Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8aecadc9-dffc-481d-a278-0c6e70c0b791@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com..
>> . On Dec 22, 6:20 pm, "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The moron who wrote this deserves to die.
>>>
>>>Oh dear. (Deer.)
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

>>
>> I didn't mean that like it is written.
>>
>> What I meant was that the person deserves to die from their own
>> stupidity. If you antagonize a wild animal and it has a little more
>> fight in it than you imagined, whose fault is that?
>>
>> Wasn't there some bear researcher or advocate killed in the last few
>> years by bears (some famous guy)? Same thing there. If you spend a
>> lot of time around bears, sooner or later, one of them will figure out
>> "Hey, that's not another bear--that's food!". Stupidity.
>>
>> I'm not a PETA nutjob. I just don't see why any sane person would
>> want to rope a deer.
>>
>> The Lizard
>>
>>

>
> It's humour. It doesn't have to make sense.
> It's made up, it didn't really happen.


There is a little too much detail in it to be totally made up. I get the
feeling someone really did try to rope a deer and then changed the story a
bit.

> Nobody but you took it seriously.
>
> There really is a humour gene and you, apparently, don't have it.


Or, I only laugh at things that are funny.

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Old 12-23-2008, 02:05 PM
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On Dec 23, 7:02*am, "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com> wrote:
SNIP


> There is a little too much detail in it to be totally made up. *I get the
> feeling someone really did try to rope a deer and then changed the story a
> bit.


ROTFLAMAO dude cowboys will try to rope damn near EVERYTHING!. In the
past they have roped grizzly, bald eagle, bison, turtles, skunks,
cougar, bobcat, beaver, 'possum etc. Not to mention greenhorns,
tinhorns, politicians, whores and lawyers.

> > Nobody but you took it seriously.

>
> > There really is a humour gene and you, apparently, don't have it.

>
> Or, I only laugh at things that are funny.


Just because everybody else laughed and you didn't doesn't make you
humorless...it just means you didn't get it.

I might tease a bit on this,but I'll never deny I haven't gotten more
than a few jokes here.
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On Dec 23, 7:05�am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I might tease a bit on this,but I'll never deny I haven't gotten more
> than a few jokes here.


Life is a joke. And you're the butt of it...


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On Dec 23, 9:00*am, "." <Rhiann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 7:05 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I might tease a bit on this,but I'll never deny I haven't gotten more
> > than a few jokes here.

>
> Life is a joke. And I'm the butt of it...



There I fixed that for you. 8^)

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Old 12-23-2008, 05:58 PM
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Jujitsu Lizard wrote:
> "S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9c86e6f7-b8cd-462b-ab90-28fe84377a7d@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> Deer Roping
>> For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!
>>
>> I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
>> feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.

>
> <SNIP>
>
> First of all, why antagonize deer? Period. Being a wild animal, it has
> enough hardship in its life.
>
> Does anyone really need to capture, fatten, kill, and eat a deer?
>
> Seriously, why do it?

..



As simple as "because we can" (Or can't as this case proved to be). It's
not a 'need', it's a 'want' (like most things in our lives).




>
> Second, if anyone is going to pull a stupid and sadistic stunt like
> that, it would have made sense to have a second person standing by with
> a 12-gauge to end it quickly if anything got out of control. Not having
> backup was stupid.




Sadistic!? Where did he say he was getting pleasure from hurting the
deer?....and a 12 gauge on a deer while someones roped to it.....now
there's a recipe for disaster.!!

It got out of control and the deer got away....you would have preferred
it to be shot with a shotgun.



>
> On the factual side ...
>
> I've never really contemplated the issue of how a herbivore like a deer
> (or a horse) might bite. I'm sure they can draw blood, but I would
> guess the teeth aren't really suited for anything but crush injuries.
> The side-to-side shaking motion is a bit of a surprise, if this is
> accurate.





Go with the
"If I wouldn't put my dick there, don't put a finger there"
attitude.




>
> The moron who wrote this deserves to die. Anyone who antagonizes a wild
> creature without a decisive backup plan deserves what they get. I'm
> actually sorry that he lived to write about it. Death by deer hoof
> seems appropriate.
>
> The Lizard



Death for playing with Deer (and not in a sexual way!) is a bit
harsh.....lucky you aren't in charge.

You think it's OK to antagonise animals as long as you kill them
afterwards? The lizards brain is slowing down in the cold?

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Old 12-23-2008, 08:24 PM
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"BrianNZ" <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> Sadistic!? Where did he say he was getting pleasure from hurting the
> deer?....and a 12 gauge on a deer while someones roped to it.....now
> there's a recipe for disaster.!!
>
> It got out of control and the deer got away....you would have preferred it
> to be shot with a shotgun.
>
>>
>> The moron who wrote this deserves to die. Anyone who antagonizes a wild
>> creature without a decisive backup plan deserves what they get. I'm
>> actually sorry that he lived to write about it. Death by deer hoof seems
>> appropriate.

>
> Death for playing with Deer (and not in a sexual way!) is a bit
> harsh.....lucky you aren't in charge.
>
> You think it's OK to antagonise animals as long as you kill them
> afterwards? The lizards brain is slowing down in the cold?


I meant "deserves" as in "natural outcome of one's actions", not as in death
should be imposed from external influences.

For example, if I find a mama grizzly bear with cubs, spray myself with fish
oil, then approach her and try to tickle her belly. Criminal? No. Likely
to result in death during the act? Yep.

Or at least the paragraph above represents my understanding of likely
grizzly behavior. I don't think she's going to roll over and beg to have
her belly tickled more. My cats might do that, but ... I have the feeling a
grizzly will behave differently.

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Jujitsu Lizard wrote:
> "BrianNZ" <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:4951355d@news.orcon.net.nz...
>> Sadistic!? Where did he say he was getting pleasure from hurting the
>> deer?....and a 12 gauge on a deer while someones roped to it.....now
>> there's a recipe for disaster.!!
>>
>> It got out of control and the deer got away....you would have preferred it
>> to be shot with a shotgun.
>>
>>> The moron who wrote this deserves to die. Anyone who antagonizes a wild
>>> creature without a decisive backup plan deserves what they get. I'm
>>> actually sorry that he lived to write about it. Death by deer hoof seems
>>> appropriate.

>> Death for playing with Deer (and not in a sexual way!) is a bit
>> harsh.....lucky you aren't in charge.
>>
>> You think it's OK to antagonise animals as long as you kill them
>> afterwards? The lizards brain is slowing down in the cold?

>
> I meant "deserves" as in "natural outcome of one's actions", not as in death
> should be imposed from external influences.
>
> For example, if I find a mama grizzly bear with cubs, spray myself with fish
> oil, then approach her and try to tickle her belly. Criminal? No. Likely
> to result in death during the act? Yep.
>
> Or at least the paragraph above represents my understanding of likely
> grizzly behavior. I don't think she's going to roll over and beg to have
> her belly tickled more. My cats might do that, but ... I have the feeling a
> grizzly will behave differently.
>
> The Lizard
>
>



Then death by motorcycle seems appropriate for you?

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Old 12-24-2008, 01:12 AM
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"Bob Mann" <bobmann@mtsremove.net> wrote
> It's humour. It doesn't have to make sense.
> It's made up, it didn't really happen.


Oh, I dunno Bob. I'd roped calves a few times from a horse in my youth so
it made perfect sense (at the time) to throw a hoolahan on a 500#'r from the
ground. Got pretty banged up by the time I got the rope off him <grin>.

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"BrianNZ" <brian@itnz.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> Then death by motorcycle seems appropriate for you?


Many times over, dude. Many times over.

The Lizard.


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Old 12-24-2008, 07:33 AM
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"Susan (CobbersMom)" <dittohead1152@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "S'mee" <> wrote in message Deer Roping
> For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!
> I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
> feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.
>
> Been seeing this story off and on for a few years, each time just as
> funny. But not true as I can speak from experience. I've had horses on
> the end of a rope AND a wild 8 pt. buck and the deer isn't nearly as
> strong as a cow or horse. They just don't have the weight.


When I read the story I didn't think that a deer could do all that either.
You have
a good point on the weight. Deer hunters regularly drag their kills out of
the
woods so I couldn't imagine that a deer is that heavy.

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Jujitsu Lizard wrote:

> Or, I only laugh at things that are funny.



Translation: I really enjoy a good joke as long as I know about it.
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"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote in
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> When I read the story I didn't think that a deer could do all that
> either. You have
> a good point on the weight. Deer hunters regularly drag their kills
> out of the
> woods so I couldn't imagine that a deer is that heavy.
>
> Ted
>


Depends where you live.
Up here they get to around 400 lbs.

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On Dec 24, 6:41*am, Bob Mann <bobm...@mtsremove.net> wrote:
> "Ted Mittelstaedt" <t...@toybox.placo.com> wrote innews:4o8926-gcf1.ln1@news.ipinc.net:
>
> > When I read the story I didn't think that a deer could do all that
> > either. You have
> > a good point on the weight. *Deer hunters regularly drag their kills
> > out of the
> > woods so I couldn't imagine that a deer is that heavy.

>
> > Ted

>
> Depends where you live.
> Up here they get to around 400 lbs.


Moose is a deer...they get REAL big.
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Twibil <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in news:a591587a-8a1c-467a-a1da-
3bf7d774dcbd@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

> It ain't just the hooves that are dangerous, either. Friend of mine's
> Grandpa was killed in his own back yard by a buck that he'd shot with
> a .22, hoping for some free venison.
>
> The buck was wounded but not killed, charged Grandpa, and put an
> antler-point into his aorta just below the rib cage.



Heh... and folks say the punishment for poaching in Montana is stiff...

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"Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9c86e6f7-b8cd-462b-ab90-28fe84377a7d@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>Deer Roping
>>For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!
>>
>>I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
>>feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.

>
> <SNIP>
>
> First of all, why antagonize deer? Period. Being a wild animal, it has
> enough hardship in its life.
>
> Does anyone really need to capture, fatten, kill, and eat a deer?
>
> Seriously, why do it?
>
> Second, if anyone is going to pull a stupid and sadistic stunt like that,
> it would have made sense to have a second person standing by with a
> 12-gauge to end it quickly if anything got out of control.


I think they still call that murder though and the shooter can get a fine or
jail.

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"Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Bob Mann" <bobmann@mtsremove.net> wrote in message
> news:i064l.3125$Uk3.168@newsfe10.iad...
>> "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.lizard@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:i5mdnbolicuLV83UnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@giganews.com :
>>
>>> "Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8aecadc9-dffc-481d-a278-0c6e70c0b791@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com..
>>> . On Dec 22, 6:20 pm, "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The moron who wrote this deserves to die.
>>>>
>>>>Oh dear. (Deer.)
>>>>
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire
>>>
>>> I didn't mean that like it is written.
>>>
>>> What I meant was that the person deserves to die from their own
>>> stupidity. If you antagonize a wild animal and it has a little more
>>> fight in it than you imagined, whose fault is that?
>>>
>>> Wasn't there some bear researcher or advocate killed in the last few
>>> years by bears (some famous guy)? Same thing there. If you spend a
>>> lot of time around bears, sooner or later, one of them will figure out
>>> "Hey, that's not another bear--that's food!". Stupidity.
>>>
>>> I'm not a PETA nutjob. I just don't see why any sane person would
>>> want to rope a deer.
>>>
>>> The Lizard
>>>
>>>

>>
>> It's humour. It doesn't have to make sense.
>> It's made up, it didn't really happen.

>
> There is a little too much detail in it to be totally made up. I get the
> feeling someone really did try to rope a deer and then changed the story a
> bit.


I bet you think "the opossum attacking a bike rider" is true too then. Or
"The bee that got inside my helmet/shirt" story too.

More detail than you can beat a rabbit with a stick with.
>
>> Nobody but you took it seriously.
>>
>> There really is a humour gene and you, apparently, don't have it.

>
> Or, I only laugh at things that are funny.


Nah, I don't think so.

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On Dec 26, 4:25*pm, "Beav" <beavis.origi...@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
> "Jujitsu Lizard" <jujitsu.liz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:MvudnSpF-uGI1s3UnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:9c86e6f7-b8cd-462b-ab90-28fe84377a7d@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com....
> >>Deer Roping
> >>For all you cowboys out there... Actual letter from someone who farms!

>
> >>I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall,
> >>feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.

>
> > <SNIP>

>
> > First of all, why antagonize deer? *Period. *Being a wild animal, it has
> > enough hardship in its life.

>
> > Does anyone really need to capture, fatten, kill, and eat a deer?

>
> > Seriously, why do it?

>
> > Second, if anyone is going to pull a stupid and sadistic stunt like that,
> > it would have made sense to have a second person standing by with a
> > 12-gauge to end it quickly if anything got out of control.

>
> I think they still call that murder though and the shooter can get a fineor
> jail.


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it. Where's the justice in that?
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