So, I get back from the grocery store, thinking I'll hop on the bike and
head to the local Harley dealer for their annual demo day and try out a
Sportster.

But I notice water bubbling out of the main sprinkler shut off valve. So I
think I'd better just shut it off. Bad move, now the water is gushing out.

So here I wait for the plumber to arrive, no test rides for me.

If it is the main line to the house, I'll be out $3 grand. Damn old house
built in 1947!

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:51:52 -0600, "BryanUT" <nestle12@comcast.net> wrote:

>Bad move, now the water is gushing out.

I had one day off in the last 7. That day was the day my basement flooded.

A line from my booster pump to the pressure switch blew off and was squirting
water against the wall for *days* before it was noticed. We don't go to the
basement every day, so it could have been running for 3 days or so.

I have thrown away a 16' trailer load of boxes, wet books, and assorted
waterlogged things. I had three bags of quick-crete. Now I have three really
big bricks.

OTOH, the floor is really clean now.

I ordered 7 Noah's Ark water alarms from Amazon.com, I'm not going through this
again.

My stepson mowed the campground about a month ago, on Thursday. He ran over one
of the outdoor faucets and broke it off. Didn't tell anybody. Fast forward to
Saturday when a guest called to report a geyser. More than 2,000 gallons down
the drain.

He no longer lives here.

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"BryanUT" <nestle12@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:CridnfBlo5xGsjrVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> So, I get back from the grocery store, thinking I'll hop on the bike and
> head to the local Harley dealer for their annual demo day and try out a
> Sportster.
>
> But I notice water bubbling out of the main sprinkler shut off valve. So
> I think I'd better just shut it off. Bad move, now the water is gushing
> out.
>
> So here I wait for the plumber to arrive, no test rides for me.

Every cloud, and all that.
>
> If it is the main line to the house, I'll be out $3 grand. Damn old house
> built in 1947!

A 60 year old house is OLD? Fuck me rigid.

Maybe building houses out of proper materials wouldn't be a bad idea.

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:33:44 -0400, Jack Hunt <jhunt1x@tds.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:51:52 -0600, "BryanUT" <nestle12@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Bad move, now the water is gushing out.
>
>I had one day off in the last 7. That day was the day my basement flooded.
>
>A line from my booster pump to the pressure switch blew off and was squirting
>water against the wall for *days* before it was noticed. We don't go to the
>basement every day, so it could have been running for 3 days or so.
>
>I have thrown away a 16' trailer load of boxes, wet books, and assorted
>waterlogged things. I had three bags of quick-crete. Now I have three really
>big bricks.
>
>OTOH, the floor is really clean now.
>
>I ordered 7 Noah's Ark water alarms from Amazon.com, I'm not going through this
>again.
>
>My stepson mowed the campground about a month ago, on Thursday. He ran over one
>of the outdoor faucets and broke it off. Didn't tell anybody. Fast forward to
>Saturday when a guest called to report a geyser. More than 2,000 gallons down
>the drain.
>
>He no longer lives here.

Does he live at ALL ? :-)



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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:59:56 +0100, "Beav"
<beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>
>A 60 year old house is OLD? Fuck me rigid.

The population in my home town has more than quintupled in 60 years.
That means ~80% of all houses are less than 60 years old.

>Maybe building houses out of proper materials wouldn't be a bad idea.

Every year construction gets cheaper and cheaper, that's materials and
methods, not costs. Standard American houses are post & beam with
studs 16" on center. Old growth lumber is giving way to rapid growth
poorer quality Douglas fir or pine. Beams are now composite glued
laminates, basically chipboard. Much of modern housing is a tract
built by a developer. A tract may have 2 or 3 floorplans, each can be
flipped for a mirror image. It's an assemblyline production. Cut &
fill grading to level the landscape. Teams of foundation guys,
framers, roofers, drywallers, cabinet/finish carpenters, painters,
etc. It's amazing to see how fast they can build a mass of houses.
Like every industry, it's all about economic efficiency.

Of course, you can still get quality construction in America, it just
costs a mint, that's all.

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:39:16 -0700, Turby <turbosurfer@beach.comber>
wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:59:56 +0100, "Beav"
><beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>>
>>A 60 year old house is OLD? Fuck me rigid.
>
>The population in my home town has more than quintupled in 60 years.
>That means ~80% of all houses are less than 60 years old.
>
>>Maybe building houses out of proper materials wouldn't be a bad idea.
>
>Every year construction gets cheaper and cheaper, that's materials and
>methods, not costs. Standard American houses are post & beam with

No, ballon or platform. The side walls are the support. In P
& B construction, you can strip the side walls out and not change the
support of the building.

>studs 16" on center. Old growth lumber is giving way to rapid growth
>poorer quality Douglas fir or pine. Beams are now composite glued
>laminates, basically chipboard. Much of modern housing is a tract
>built by a developer. A tract may have 2 or 3 floorplans, each can be
>flipped for a mirror image.

Especially considering how much the carpenter they hired from
Mexico has had to drink that day :-)


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"BryanUT" <nestle12@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:CridnfBlo5xGsjrVnZ2dnUVZ_q_inZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> So, I get back from the grocery store, thinking I'll hop on the bike
> and head to the local Harley dealer for their annual demo day and
> try out a Sportster.
>
> But I notice water bubbling out of the main sprinkler shut off
> valve. So I think I'd better just shut it off. Bad move, now the
> water is gushing out.
>
> So here I wait for the plumber to arrive, no test rides for me.
>
> If it is the main line to the house, I'll be out $3 grand. Damn old
> house built in 1947!
>

Hey! It's 2 years older than I am... no wonder!

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:28:55 -0400, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:39:16 -0700, Turby <turbosurfer@beach.comber>
>wrote:
>
>>Every year construction gets cheaper and cheaper, that's materials and
>>methods, not costs. Standard American houses are post & beam with
>
> No, ballon or platform.

Yeah. As soon as I sent it, I realized it. Around here, it's almost
all platform. I just went through a house my buddy is building that's
p&b.

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:44:59 -0400, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

>Does he live at ALL ? :-)

Probably, but I'm having a hard time caring.

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"Turby" <turbosurfer@beach.comber> wrote in message
news:br2fa4de36uj9g8445p5e5mfiamt5k08s6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:28:55 -0400, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:39:16 -0700, Turby <turbosurfer@beach.comber>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Every year construction gets cheaper and cheaper, that's materials and
>>>methods, not costs. Standard American houses are post & beam with
>>
>> No, ballon or platform.
>
> Yeah. As soon as I sent it, I realized it. Around here, it's almost
> all platform. I just went through a house my buddy is building that's
> p&b.
>
> --
> Turby the Turbosurfer

My house is solid brick no framing, all the walls are plaster and lathe. It
has no hope of surving a major earthquake.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:39:51 -0400, Jack Hunt <jhunt1x@tds.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:44:59 -0400, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
>>Does he live at ALL ? :-)
>
>Probably, but I'm having a hard time caring.

Hear dat. You'd a thunk he would have told you. I'm sure all
would have been ( comparatively ) well.

BTW, I suspect your water loss was more like 20,000 gal, not
2,000 ( looking at the hourly / GPM rate )


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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 23:26:40 -0400, .p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:

>BTW, I suspect your water loss was more like 20,000 gal, not
>2,000 ( looking at the hourly / GPM rate )

I don't remember the gallons, but the water bill was about $120 higher that
month.

What really frosted me, there was a cutoff valve about 6 feet away that would
have killed that leak. He just couldn't be bothered to turn it off.

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<.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:39:16 -0700, Turby <turbosurfer@beach.comber>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:59:56 +0100, "Beav"
>><beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>A 60 year old house is OLD? Fuck me rigid.
>>
>>The population in my home town has more than quintupled in 60 years.
>>That means ~80% of all houses are less than 60 years old.
>>
>>>Maybe building houses out of proper materials wouldn't be a bad idea.
>>
>>Every year construction gets cheaper and cheaper, that's materials and
>>methods, not costs. Standard American houses are post & beam with
>
> No, ballon or platform. The side walls are the support. In P
> & B construction, you can strip the side walls out and not change the
> support of the building.
>
>>studs 16" on center. Old growth lumber is giving way to rapid growth
>>poorer quality Douglas fir or pine. Beams are now composite glued
>>laminates, basically chipboard. Much of modern housing is a tract
>>built by a developer. A tract may have 2 or 3 floorplans, each can be
>>flipped for a mirror image.
>
> Especially considering how much the carpenter they hired from
> Mexico has had to drink that day :-)

I see you can't help making racist comments on just about everything. You're
a REAL fucking wanker you know that?


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