What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
reasonably priced? What works the best?


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Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8

Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:
> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> reasonably priced? What works the best?

Purpose made motorcycle clothing will offer the best combination of
protection from injury and the elements, plus it will be designed to
work well while riding, which other non-dedicated clothing will not.

Check out the Aerostich Roadcrafter. I wear one and recommend it.
Also look into the Motoport offerings, and there are lots of others.
You will probably find a bunch of stuff by googling for:

motorcycle textile

Aerostich website:
http://www.aerostich.com

Motoport website:
http://www.motoport.com/

Comparison of Aerostich to Motoport:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/motoport/

Newenough is a well-regarded retailer of motorcycle clothing:
http://www.newenough.com/

--
'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:36:20 -0400, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
<boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:

>What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
>Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
>reasonably priced? What works the best?

I've found Rhyno gear reasonable and very warm.
Not sure if it's available outside Canada though.

"Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ? " <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:

: What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
: Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
: reasonably priced? What works the best?

Define "cold".

It was 44F when I rode this morning and my (heavy) leather jacket, fleece
liner, long underwear and heavy pants (Carhartts) were sufficient. Okay,
along with a balaclava under my helmet. Mind you these are suburban and
city streets, speed at most 50 in places.

Below 40F I plug in the electric gloves.

Below 30F I plug in the electric jacket liner as well as the gloves.

I find that leathers in and of themselves will do well to stop the wind
but very little for keeping in the heat.

Note: YMMV, I don't have a lot of...natural insulation...if you're a
heavier sort of fellow you might get away with less.

Justin
'07 Suzuki SV650
'02 Honda Shadow VT750DC

Mark Olson wrote:
> Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:
>> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
>> Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
>> reasonably priced? What works the best?
>
> Purpose made motorcycle clothing will offer the best combination of
> protection from injury and the elements, plus it will be designed to
> work well while riding, which other non-dedicated clothing will not.
>
> Check out the Aerostich Roadcrafter. I wear one and recommend it.
> Also look into the Motoport offerings, and there are lots of others.
> You will probably find a bunch of stuff by googling for:
>
> motorcycle textile
>
> Aerostich website:
> http://www.aerostich.com
>
> Motoport website:
> http://www.motoport.com/
>
> Comparison of Aerostich to Motoport:
> http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/motoport/
>
> Newenough is a well-regarded retailer of motorcycle clothing:
> http://www.newenough.com/
>

I don't believe I'll be paying $500 for a jacket.


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Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8

Justin wrote:
> "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ? " <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> : What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> : Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> : reasonably priced? What works the best?
>
> Define "cold".
>
> It was 44F when I rode this morning and my (heavy) leather jacket, fleece
> liner, long underwear and heavy pants (Carhartts) were sufficient. Okay,
> along with a balaclava under my helmet. Mind you these are suburban and
> city streets, speed at most 50 in places.
>
> Below 40F I plug in the electric gloves.
>
> Below 30F I plug in the electric jacket liner as well as the gloves.
>
> I find that leathers in and of themselves will do well to stop the wind
> but very little for keeping in the heat.
>
> Note: YMMV, I don't have a lot of...natural insulation...if you're a
> heavier sort of fellow you might get away with less.
>
> Justin
> '07 Suzuki SV650
> '02 Honda Shadow VT750DC
>
>
I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me. I like it over 70.

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Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8

Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:

> I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.

That's T-shirt and flip-flops weather in Canada...

"Justin" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:ftvnvb$8kl$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
> "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ? " <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> : What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> : Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> : reasonably priced? What works the best?
>
> Define "cold".
>
> It was 44F when I rode this morning and my (heavy) leather jacket, fleece
> liner, long underwear and heavy pants (Carhartts) were sufficient. Okay,
> along with a balaclava under my helmet. Mind you these are suburban and
> city streets, speed at most 50 in places.
>
> Below 40F I plug in the electric gloves.
>
> Below 30F I plug in the electric jacket liner as well as the gloves.
>
> I find that leathers in and of themselves will do well to stop the wind
> but very little for keeping in the heat.
>
> Note: YMMV, I don't have a lot of...natural insulation...if you're a
> heavier sort of fellow you might get away with less.
>
> Justin
> '07 Suzuki SV650
> '02 Honda Shadow VT750DC

Jehosaphat! It was near 100 dgerees here, yesterday. I rode in boots,
gloves, jeans and a t-shirt. When it dipped below 80, in the shadows of
dusk, I got chilly.

http://www.thumpers-roadhouse.ws/bc.jpg



LOL!


--
Rev. Thumper Rabbitt

Minister and Prophet,
Church of Rec.Motorcycles®.



>
>

""Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in
message news:480377cc$0$3394$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Mark Olson wrote:
>> Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:
>>> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
>>> Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
>>> reasonably priced? What works the best?
>>
>> Purpose made motorcycle clothing will offer the best combination of
>> protection from injury and the elements, plus it will be designed to
>> work well while riding, which other non-dedicated clothing will not.
>>
>> Check out the Aerostich Roadcrafter. I wear one and recommend it.
>> Also look into the Motoport offerings, and there are lots of others.
>> You will probably find a bunch of stuff by googling for:
>>
>> motorcycle textile
>>
>> Aerostich website:
>> http://www.aerostich.com
>>
>> Motoport website:
>> http://www.motoport.com/
>>
>> Comparison of Aerostich to Motoport:
>> http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/motoport/
>>
>> Newenough is a well-regarded retailer of motorcycle clothing:
>> http://www.newenough.com/
>>
>
> I don't believe I'll be paying $500 for a jacket.
>
>
> --
> Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8

You didn't list a price range.

Here.....

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ci_sku=6435367



--
Rev. Thumper Rabbitt

Minister and Prophet,
Church of Rec.Motorcycles®.

On Apr 14, 11:33 am, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
<boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.
>
Most definitely a one piece suit is looming in your future.
Without it you have electrics working to negate
the effects of a huge hole between the pants and a jacket.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:31:33 -0400, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
<boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:

>I don't believe I'll be paying $500 for a jacket.

How much will you pay for bandages?

--
Turby the Turbosurfer

osamahornifukus@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 14, 11:33 am, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
> <boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.
>>
>
> Most definitely a one piece suit is looming in your future.

It may loom, but since Mr. B.S. has already rejected a $500 jacket,
I'm pretty sure he won't be wearing it.

I have seen used Aerostich suits selling for under $500, but they
are rare at that price, especially in good condition.

--
'01 SV650SK1 '99 EX250-F13 '98 ZG1000-A13
OMF #7

On Apr 14, 1:24 pm, Mark Olson <ols...@tiny.invalid> wrote:
> osamahornifu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 14, 11:33 am, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
> > <boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> >>I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.
>
> > Most definitely a one piece suit is looming in your future.
>
> It may loom, but since Mr. B.S. has already rejected a $500 jacket,
> I'm pretty sure he won't be wearing it.
>
> I have seen used Aerostich suits selling for under $500, but they
> are rare at that price, especially in good condition.
>
I have a cheaper firstgear one piece suit made of lighter weight
nylon.
I bet it's not as usable as a 'stich, but it won't self destruct as
a dedicated rainsuit in a crash and will keep most of water of the two
piece leather or whatever (existing gear) he'll be wearing underneath.

If I had a time machine and could go back in time 7-10 years
I'd most definitely get a stich. But with my riding future uncertain
I'm having it a cheap bastard way: using the crap I've accumulated so
far.

To me a cheap textile oversuit has some use as a windstopper / water
deterrent and as such has more value than electrics.

On Apr 14, 11:13 am, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:
> "Justin" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ftvnvb$8kl$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
>
>
>
> > "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ? " <boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > : What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> > : Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> > : reasonably priced? What works the best?
>
> > Define "cold".
>
> > It was 44F when I rode this morning and my (heavy) leather jacket, fleece
> > liner, long underwear and heavy pants (Carhartts) were sufficient. Okay,
> > along with a balaclava under my helmet. Mind you these are suburban and
> > city streets, speed at most 50 in places.
>
> > Below 40F I plug in the electric gloves.
>
> > Below 30F I plug in the electric jacket liner as well as the gloves.
>
> > I find that leathers in and of themselves will do well to stop the wind
> > but very little for keeping in the heat.
>
> > Note: YMMV, I don't have a lot of...natural insulation...if you're a
> > heavier sort of fellow you might get away with less.
>
> > Justin
> > '07 Suzuki SV650
> > '02 Honda Shadow VT750DC
>
> Jehosaphat! It was near 100 dgerees here, yesterday. I rode in boots,
> gloves, jeans and a t-shirt. When it dipped below 80, in the shadows of
> dusk, I got chilly.
>
> http://www.thumpers-roadhouse.ws/bc.jpg
>
We've had 80s yesterday, but closer to the end of my ride it dipped
into the 60s.
This morning it was barely over 50.
Nothing beats a trunk on a bike for ditching/yankingn (a shitload of)
gear
as the temps change.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:36:20 +0200, Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼
<boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?

Cold weather motorcycle clothing, obviously. Although I ride in
a set of armor, a polar fleece and goretex touristic jacket
on top. However, it is an inferior solution (for example, I'm
going to ruin the jacket in case of a spill at any speed faster
than 10-20 mph) and I'm looking for a four-season motorcycle clothing,
because using separate layers for protection is pretty inconvenient.

> What's reasonably priced? What works the best?

That's two questions with two different sets of answers. :-)

Leslie
--
Leszek "Leslie" Karlik
NTV 650

Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:
> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> reasonably priced? What works the best?
>
>

Under 50 degrees you can get the First Gear 'Thermo' Rain/Riding Suit.

I use it and can ride for 1 hour at 17 degrees.

If the temp is at 50 to 60, you could be in your underwear
and sweat a ton in this thing. I just unzip it a the top
and unstrap the wrists to allow air flow.

moncho

On 2008-04-14 09:36:20 -0400, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
<boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> said:

> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> reasonably priced? What works the best?


Put some Gerbing heated gear under your leathers. Heaven in a snow
storm for sure. I just rode back from near Terre Haute for 8 hours in
35-40 degree weather in mine. Very comfy. Why did I wait so long to
see the light. <g>

http://www.heatedclothingoutlet.com/...hp?shop=1&cart

On 2008-04-14 11:35:45 -0400, Doug Payne <dwpayne@ist.uwaterloo.ca> said:

> Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:
>
>> I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.
>
> That's T-shirt and flip-flops weather in Canada...

No shit. I'd kill for them temps right now.

Turby wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:31:33 -0400, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
> <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't believe I'll be paying $500 for a jacket.
>
> How much will you pay for bandages?
>
I don't wear an air bag because I "Might" fall down.

--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8

osamahornifukus@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 14, 11:33 am, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
> <boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.
>>
> Most definitely a one piece suit is looming in your future.
> Without it you have electrics working to negate
> the effects of a huge hole between the pants and a jacket.

Yes, I was thinking one piece.

--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 7/8

On Apr 14, 11:35*am, Doug Payne <dwpa...@ist.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:
>
> > I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.
>
> That's T-shirt and flip-flops weather in Canada...

ATTSAATFFATT!!!!


(All The T-Shirts And All The Flip Flops All The Time!)

On Apr 14, 5:34*pm, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
<boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> osamahornifu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Apr 14, 11:33 am, "Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "
> > <boobooililili...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> >> I mean 40's 50's. This is freezing on a bike to me.
>
> > Most definitely a one piece suit is looming in your future.
> > Without it you have electrics working to negate
> > the effects of a huge hole between the pants and a jacket.
>
> Yes, I was thinking one piece.

In spite of the initial outlay ($797 currently) I still consider the
Aeristich Roadcrafter one-piece suit to be a bargain. I bought my
first one used for $500, wore it for ten years, and sold it for 1/2
what I paid for it. For $25 a year, I got head to toe protection with
armor and three-season functionality. Adding Gerbing heated jacket
and pants liners meant the suit was good year round. Riding to work,
I throw it on over my work clothes, and stuff it in the top case when
I get to work and walk in with no sign of motorcycling attire.
Literally 30 second on and 20 seconds off, it's amazing. I had my
second suit custom altered by Rider Wearhouse when I ordered it, and
it fits perfectly. It's three or four years old now and shows almost
ZERO wear. It's made in the United States, contributes to our
economy, and they will repair or renew any damage to your suit for a
reasonable charge. My racing partner just sent his 9-year-old suit
back for zipper replacements (he had torn one and melted another on a
hot exhaust pipe) and when the suit came back, it was
indistinguishable from new.

I'm sure the suit has extended the life of my Gerbing components as
well, another American made product. 12 years old and still going
strong.

A large initial outlay to be sure, but a bargain in the long run for
riders who know that they're going to be riding a lot, for a long
time!

In article <480377cc$0$3394$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ " <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Mark Olson wrote:
> > Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ wrote:
> >> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> >> Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> >> reasonably priced? What works the best?
> >
> > Purpose made motorcycle clothing will offer the best combination of
> > protection from injury and the elements, plus it will be designed to
> > work well while riding, which other non-dedicated clothing will not.
> >
> > Check out the Aerostich Roadcrafter. I wear one and recommend it.
> > Also look into the Motoport offerings, and there are lots of others.
> > You will probably find a bunch of stuff by googling for:
> >
> > motorcycle textile
> >
> > Aerostich website:
> > http://www.aerostich.com
> >
> > Motoport website:
> > http://www.motoport.com/
> >
> > Comparison of Aerostich to Motoport:
> > http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/motoport/
> >
> > Newenough is a well-regarded retailer of motorcycle clothing:
> > http://www.newenough.com/
> >
>
> I don't believe I'll be paying $500 for a jacket.

I was riding the elevator up to work one day when someone asked me why I
wear that riding gear (an Aerostich Roadcrafter). I said, "I have an
allergic reaction to the pavement. It gives me a rash." It took a few
moments, but I saw the slowly spreading grin on his face as he got it.

I second the Roadcrafter. You can wear extra layers under it as needed
for the cold, and during the summer, you can put on a wet t-shirt first
as active cooling and the 'Stich will survive.

As someone else asked, how much will you pay for bandages?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml

""Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote

>>> I don't believe I'll be paying $500 for a jacket.
>>
>> How much will you pay for bandages?
>>
> I don't wear an air bag because I "Might" fall down.

Ah. And presumably you don't bathe just because you "Might" stink, don't
brush your teeth just because you "Might" lose them, and, should you have a
wife and young kids, don't carry any life insurance because you "Might" not
ever die and leave them destitute, right?

Good thinking.

> In spite of the initial outlay ($797 currently) I still consider the
> Aeristich Roadcrafter one-piece suit to be a bargain. I bought my

Tss! Someone got to buy the loss leader products too, you know,
so that the stich has some semblance of competition someday.

> first one used for $500, wore it for ten years, and sold it for 1/2
> what I paid for it. For $25 a year, I got head to toe protection with
> armor and three-season functionality. Adding Gerbing heated jacket
> and pants liners meant the suit was good year round. Riding to work,

it's obvious you don't live in the south. I want to move into
an A/Ced car once the temps are in the 80s
I dire not to think of a ride in a one piece suit at 70+F
and i cringe when i see a rider wearing one
in a Shrekland summer/later spring.

On Apr 14, 2:18 pm, sleazy <n...@nil.net> wrote:
> Put some Gerbing heated gear under your leathers. Heaven in a snow
> storm for sure. I just rode back from near Terre Haute for 8 hours in
> 35-40 degree weather in mine. Very comfy. Why did I wait so long to
> see the light. <g>
>

and how many bikes exactly aside from the beemers can crank enough
juice
to power up the full Gerbing set?

In article
<f1157d02-d0c3-45ff-b056-67abcceecf05@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
osamahornifukus@gmail.com wrote:

> > In spite of the initial outlay ($797 currently) I still consider the
> > Aeristich Roadcrafter one-piece suit to be a bargain. I bought my
>
> Tss! Someone got to buy the loss leader products too, you know,
> so that the stich has some semblance of competition someday.
>
> > first one used for $500, wore it for ten years, and sold it for 1/2
> > what I paid for it. For $25 a year, I got head to toe protection with
> > armor and three-season functionality. Adding Gerbing heated jacket
> > and pants liners meant the suit was good year round. Riding to work,
>
> it's obvious you don't live in the south. I want to move into
> an A/Ced car once the temps are in the 80s
> I dire not to think of a ride in a one piece suit at 70+F
> and i cringe when i see a rider wearing one
> in a Shrekland summer/later spring.

What would you wear instead -- full leathers?

Open the underarm zippers and the hip zippers and your temperature will
be comfortable. If it gets much hotter, drench your t-shirt in water and
let evaporation make you cool. What leather suit can survive that?

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
faq: http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/faq.shtml

On Apr 14, 7:11 pm, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@infernosoft.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <f1157d02-d0c3-45ff-b056-67abcceec...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> osamahornifu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > In spite of the initial outlay ($797 currently) I still consider the
> > > Aeristich Roadcrafter one-piece suit to be a bargain. I bought my
>
> > Tss! Someone got to buy the loss leader products too, you know,
> > so that the stich has some semblance of competition someday.
>
> > > first one used for $500, wore it for ten years, and sold it for 1/2
> > > what I paid for it. For $25 a year, I got head to toe protection with
> > > armor and three-season functionality. Adding Gerbing heated jacket
> > > and pants liners meant the suit was good year round. Riding to work,
>
> > it's obvious you don't live in the south. I want to move into
> > an A/Ced car once the temps are in the 80s
> > I dire not to think of a ride in a one piece suit at 70+F
> > and i cringe when i see a rider wearing one
> > in a Shrekland summer/later spring.
>
> What would you wear instead -- full leathers?
>
I'm not advocating leathers. I'm advocating 2 piece suit for 70+ F

> Open the underarm zippers and the hip zippers and your temperature will
> be comfortable. If it gets much hotter, drench your t-shirt in water and
> let evaporation make you cool. What leather suit can survive that?
>
My 2 piece leathers survived the water overflow from the helmet
and the ice melting on my chest.
Maybe they are not as strong now but definitely still
beat the mesh of Bohn leggings as far as the integrity goes.

osamahornifukus@gmail.com wrote:

: and how many bikes exactly aside from the beemers can crank enough
: juice to power up the full Gerbing set?

I did the calculation once and found that my Shadow 750 has enough extra
juice at 5000 RPM for gloves, jacket and pants. I'm guessing my SV650
could probably handle them all too, though I only have the jacket and
gloves. It handles those fine at city and suburban streets though, that's
at 5000 RPM or so and below, even.

Modern bikes have more extra juice than people realize.

Justin
'02 Honda Shadow VT750DC
'07 Suzuki SV650

""Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼ "" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in
message news:48034ebd$0$5709$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> What's th best cold weather riding gear besides chaps and leather?
> Insulated rain gear, camouflage hunting gear? Ski clothing? What's
> reasonably priced? What works the best?

I've found that Cordura (that ballistic nylon stuff) with long underwear
works well. I just got back from Orlando (to Marshall, Michigan). A heavy
nylon Harley jacket (purchased at the Harley dealership) with liner, with a
sweatshirt and long underwear underneath worked well doing 80 MPH in 45F
weather.

I have some forearm-length leather riding gloves. I put some cheap Walmart
(gardening?) gloves under those for more insulation.

I've found that jeans on the bottom, even with long underwear, don't hold up
well to very cold air. I have some Cordura riding pants, and putting long
underwear under those worked better than long underwear under jeans. I
suspect the jeans let too much air through.

The secret seems to be to have something wind-opaque on the outside and then
layers on the inside.

A full-face helmet, naturally.

Two pairs of socks under riding boots, naturally. The "diabetic care" socks
seem to work well (they are kind of fluffy and seem to trap a lot of air).

The weak points on my ride were:

a)Need something to cover my neck. That got cold.

b)No matter what I did, fingers got cold. The gardening gloves slowed it
down, but it happened.

c)Feet got a bit cool, but they weren't as bad as the fingers.

No need to spend a lot of money. Cordura stuff with layers underneath
worked well for me ...