I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
Venture.
I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor wind
protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.

For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
Wayne

"Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:fjf4010q4l@news4.newsguy.com...
>I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>Venture.
> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
> shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor
> wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
> I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
> For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
> in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
> Wayne

The 1800 Wing is about as good as it gets for comfort and protection. Its
also a lot better ride than the 1500 was. If that is what you are looking
for, hit the IMS show when it comes to a town near you and get a good look
at one.

"Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:fjf4010q4l@news4.newsguy.com...
>I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>Venture.
> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
> shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor
> wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
> I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
> For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
> in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
> Wayne
>
>

Which Harley are you considering? A Fat Boy isn't the same as Road Glide.

The Road King I rode (thank you Thumper) didn't shake nearly as much as the
Buells I rode.

As much as I have come to respect Harleys over this past year, 800lb bikes
ain't my style.

Buy a Ducati.

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:57:32 -0500, "Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>Venture.
>I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
>too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor wind
>protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
>I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
>For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
>in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>Wayne
>

IMHO, having owned Wings and ridden HD tourers, go Honda GL1800. The
weather protection on the Wing is outstanding, not to mention the
creature comforts. I've ridden in pouring rain, leathers only and not
gotten wet. I will point out that when the skies truly open up, you
will get wet. I got caught in a frog strangler so harsh that I
couldn't see 10' in front of me. I eased into the first shelter I
could find and wrung everything out. I poured water out of my boots.
<g>
sleazy
'01 R1150GSA - "Terminator"
'95 Trophy 1200 - "SPT2R"

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:57:32 -0500, "Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
>in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?

You call that a serious question? Hah. That ain't no serious question.
A serious question is: what do you do when you walk in the door and
see your wife and your girlfriend waiting for you with knives in their
hands?

--
Turby the Turbosurfer

"Turby" <turbosurfer@beach.comber> wrote in message
news:578ml39tjps6lofqkc9sreih52sioh5bvr@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:57:32 -0500, "Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
>>in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>
> You call that a serious question? Hah. That ain't no serious question.
> A serious question is: what do you do when you walk in the door and
> see your wife and your girlfriend waiting for you with knives in their
> hands?
>
> --
> Turby the Turbosurfer

There is technology to prevent this from happening.

Luddite,

Where is that Canyonlands film?

Serious, that is only evidence of me riding slow. Ooops I mean fast. I don't
know, I was just riding.

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:59:06 -0700, Turby <turbosurfer@beach.comber>
wrote:

>On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:57:32 -0500, "Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
>>in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>
>You call that a serious question? Hah. That ain't no serious question.
>A serious question is: what do you do when you walk in the door and
>see your wife and your girlfriend waiting for you with knives in their
>hands?

Nah, a serious question is how do you _quietly_ put your pants on, in
a dark closet, with a pocket full of loose change?


--
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2004 HD Road King
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On Dec 8, 7:21 pm, Calgary
<actual.rider_remove_the_obvio...@telus.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:59:06 -0700, Turby <turbosur...@beach.comber>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:57:32 -0500, "Wayne" <wrjo...@newsguy.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
> >>in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>
> >You call that a serious question? Hah. That ain't no serious question.
> >A serious question is: what do you do when you walk in the door and
> >see your wife and your girlfriend waiting for you with knives in their
> >hands?
>
> Nah, a serious question is how do you _quietly_ put your pants on, in
> a dark closet, with a pocket full of loose change?

<BOGGLE> How did you let yourself get caught with a POCKET FULL OF
LOOSE CHANGE???????

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:57:32 -0500, "Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>Venture.
>I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
>too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor wind
>protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
>I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
>For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
>in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>Wayne
>
There is not much to choose between the Ultra Classic and the Gold
Wings when it comes to comfort and wind protection.

There are so many pluses and minuses to each it would take a magazine
article to go over them all. There are plenty online.
Added to that is a nearly 50/50 split in preferences between the two
of them.
So much depends on what you want in a bike and what you want from a
bike.

BTW. The Volusia is nothing like either.

--
Bob Mann

Sex is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

Wayne wrote:

> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
> too much

The operative word here is "appear".

My Ultra Classic's rubber-mounted motor shakes at idle. This is meant
to impress onlookers when I'm stopped at a light. It's also a heritage
from the days of yore when Harleys shook so strongly at any speed that
the rider had to wear a kidney belt.

I can feel the idling motor's shaking through the hand grips.
The feeling is so distinctively Harley that the Motor Co. tried
to patent it. The patent application was withdrawn after some
controversy, however.

Sean_Q_
'99 FLHTCUI
'06 S40
'04 XV250
'81 Stires

Wayne wrote:
> I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
> Venture.
> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
> shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride,
> poor wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
> I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
> For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the
> Goldwing in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
> Wayne

Which model?

"Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:fjf4010q4l@news4.newsguy.com...
>I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>Venture.
> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
> shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor
> wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
> I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
> For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
> in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
> Wayne

The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.

Thumper

Thumper wrote:

> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.

Which one being like the vintage wine?

SQ
'99 FLHTCUI

On Dec 9, 12:36 pm, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:
> "Wayne" <wrjo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fjf4010q4l@news4.newsguy.com...
>
> >I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
> >Venture.
> > I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
> > shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor
> > wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
> > I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
> > For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
> > in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
> > Wayne
>
> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.
>
> Thumper

So which is which? The order you listed them in implies the Harley is
the Thunderbird.

Bruce

"Bruce Richmond" <bsr3997@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:3442fef4-dcd4-45b9-b111-200952add23e@q3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 9, 12:36 pm, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:
>> "Wayne" <wrjo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fjf4010q4l@news4.newsguy.com...
>>
>> >I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>> >Venture.
>> > I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
>> > shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor
>> > wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
>> > I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>>
>> > For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the
>> > Goldwing
>> > in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>> > Wayne
>>
>> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance
>> between a
>> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.
>>
>> Thumper
>
> So which is which? The order you listed them in implies the Harley is
> the Thunderbird.
>
> Bruce

I imply nothing.

Thumper

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:28:43 GMT, Sean <no.spam@no.spam> wrote:

>Thumper wrote:
>
>> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
>> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.
>
>Which one being like the vintage wine?
>
>SQ
>'99 FLHTCUI

If you have to ask............... ;-)
--
Bob Mann

Sex is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:11:24 -0800 (PST), Bruce Richmond
<bsr3997@my-deja.com> wrote:

>On Dec 9, 12:36 pm, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:
>> "Wayne" <wrjo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fjf4010q4l@news4.newsguy.com...
>>
>> >I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>> >Venture.
>> > I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
>> > shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor
>> > wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
>> > I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>>
>> > For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
>> > in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>> > Wayne
>>
>> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
>> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.
>>
>> Thumper
>
>So which is which? The order you listed them in implies the Harley is
>the Thunderbird.
>
>Bruce

Sometimes you need a nice inoffensive chardonnay and sometimes a raw,
in your face bottle of plonk.
--
Bob Mann

Sex is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

Bob Mann wrote:

>>On Dec 9, 12:36 pm, "Thumper" <roadap...@unclewebster.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
>>> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.

Respectively.

>Sometimes you need a nice inoffensive chardonnay and sometimes a raw,
>in your face bottle of plonk.

Excellent response!

--
================================================== ======================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mrkesti at hotmail dot com | - The Who, Bargain

"Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com> wrote:

:I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
:Venture.
:I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
:too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor wind
rotection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
:I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
:
:For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
:in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
:Wayne
:

At any speed faster than an idle, the Electra-Glides don't shake at
all. No buzz; no numbness; no nothing. The batwing fairing is good,
but not quite as good as the Goldwing.

With a back rest, the Electra-Glide is all day comfortable. The low
seat height and the big floorboards add to the comfort.

I recommend renting an Electra-Glide or Road-Glide for a day. For
touring at speeds under 85mph, they are excellent. If you prefer to
putt along at 90, go with the Wing, a beemer or a V-Strom. The new
Concours wouldn't be a bad choice either.
--

Sean wrote:

>Wayne wrote:
>
>> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
>> too much
>
>The operative word here is "appear".
>
>My Ultra Classic's rubber-mounted motor shakes at idle. This is meant
>to impress onlookers when I'm stopped at a light.

I find nothing impressive about a vehicle that is blurry at zero velocity,
but then I'm not impressed by loud pipes, ricers' fart cans and wings, and
boomy subwoofers, either!

> It's also a heritage
>from the days of yore when Harleys shook so strongly at any speed that
>the rider had to wear a kidney belt.
>
>I can feel the idling motor's shaking through the hand grips.
>The feeling is so distinctively Harley that the Motor Co. tried
>to patent it. The patent application was withdrawn after some
>controversy, however.

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Ca...arley-Davidson)
reports:

The Twin Cam wasn't initially used in the Softail model family before
the year 2000. This was due to the chassis' design and issues with
increased vibration. The increase in vibration was a result of the
direct mounting of the engine to the frame. Dyna models are "rubber
mounted" and therefore do not suffer the same vibration problems
Harley then solved the issue by making a redesigned version of the
Twin Cam, the Twin Cam 88B, which is essentially the same as the
original Twin Cam, but with a different engine block design and twin
chain-driven counter-balancers, which had caused some controversy
among Harley veterans, claiming that the "Harley vibes" were a part
of their motorcycles. This engine is currently used on all softail
models.

I found no reference, though, to an attempt to patent vibrations. Can
you provide a citation?

--
================================================== ======================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
mrkesti at hotmail dot com | - The Who, Bargain

"Sean" <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in message
news:vtW6j.11049$iU.4356@pd7urf2no...
> Thumper wrote:
>
>> The difference between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the difference
>> between a fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.
>
> Which one being like the vintage wine?
>
> SQ
> '99 FLHTCUI

http://www.analogstereo.com/images/o...hunderbird.jpg

http://www.collectorcarbuff.com/collector/tbird_30.jpg

http://www.heretoserveyou.com/Stanley/rightfrodown.jpg

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1955%20Thunderbird.JPG


--
Rev. Thumper Rabbitt

Minister and Prophet,
Church of Rec.Motorcycles®.

"Wayne" <wrjones@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:fjf4010q4l@news4.newsguy.com...
>I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>Venture.
> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to
> shake too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor
> wind protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
> I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
> For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the
> Goldwing in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
> Wayne
>
>
I don't have experience with the Goldwing, but I can comment on an Electra
Glide. The fit of an Electra Glide is for someone under 6 feet, I'd say.
I'm 6 foot one. The ride is Ok, but the foot position is uncomfortably
too close when I slip in the backrest I bought this summer.

Shake is only an issue at idle, and I guess it's the idle that might cause
parts to fall off over time. I haven't lost any parts yet myself, so at
this point that kind of thing is an urban legend to me.

Comfort is Ok, other than the foot position thing mentioned above. The
seat sweeps up at the back, providing support which compensates for having
your feet out in front of you. Slouches like me need that. Handle bars
feel a little wide to me, but then I was coming from a Concours, which has
relatively narrow bars.

Wind protection is Ok to me. A little too good maybe, considering my full
face helmet doesn't get enough air flow to provide ventilation. My hands
get cold around 40 F, but not any more than on my Concours.

Water protection....My Concours is water cooled and has a full fairing
that provides a complete shield from my head to ankles (feet can get wet
passing through standing water). The radiator stops any water that may be
entering via the radiator opening in the fairing. The Electra Glide
suffers from needing a path for air cooling. The two part protection
(windshield/fairing and separate lowers) isn't bad really. I think maybe
my knees catch a little water that slips in-between the two perhaps, but
not a lot. However, the air stream required to cool the engine allows
water to sweep around the cylinders and soak the inside of my boot and
inside bottom of my leather pants. The right side isn't too bad as the
exhaust pipe helps shield me from the airstrem on that side. My left boot
got soaked in an hour of good rain on the highway. >>SOAKED<<.

This exhaust pipe worries me though. While I've yet to ride the EG with
rain gear, the pipe sits maybe at ankle level, making me wonder if I'll
melt my rain pants on it. Note that I've ridden in a heavy rain and not
bothered to use the rain suit. With the exception of the inside of my
boot and pants leg being really soaked, everything else was Ok.

Don't know about the Goldwing, but the Electra Glide has only a 200 mile
tank. It's an issue on a few of the roads up here. Air cooling might be
an issue if you do a lot of in-town red lights.

Robert

Wayne wrote:
> I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
> Venture.
> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
> too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor wind
> protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
> I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>
> For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
> in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
> Wayne
>
>
Harley's are for working on, Jap bikes are for riding.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:49:23 -0500, Broderick Crawford ililililil
<bcrawford2150@roadrunner.com> wrote:

>Wayne wrote:
>> I have owned several bikes including a 2000 Goldwing and now my 1986
>> Venture.
>> I have never considered owning a Harley mainly because they appear to shake
>> too much and I had a Volusia cruiser which had a lousy ride, poor wind
>> protection, and the sound got annoying on a long ride.
>> I guess I should rent a Harley for a day.
>>
>> For people who have driven both, how does a Harley compare to the Goldwing
>> in terms of ride comfort and wind protection on the highway?
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>Harley's are for working on, Jap bikes are for riding.

Ahh yes, the intelligent, thoughtful and, oh so helpful, response.
--
Bob Mann

Sex is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:21:31 -0900, "Robert Bolton"
<robertboltondrop@gci.net> wrote:

>Water protection....My Concours is water cooled and has a full fairing
>that provides a complete shield from my head to ankles (feet can get wet
>passing through standing water). The radiator stops any water that may be
>entering via the radiator opening in the fairing. The Electra Glide
>suffers from needing a path for air cooling. The two part protection
>(windshield/fairing and separate lowers) isn't bad really. I think maybe
>my knees catch a little water that slips in-between the two perhaps, but
>not a lot. However, the air stream required to cool the engine allows
>water to sweep around the cylinders and soak the inside of my boot and
>inside bottom of my leather pants. The right side isn't too bad as the
>exhaust pipe helps shield me from the airstrem on that side. My left boot
>got soaked in an hour of good rain on the highway. >>SOAKED<<.
>
>This exhaust pipe worries me though. While I've yet to ride the EG with
>rain gear, the pipe sits maybe at ankle level, making me wonder if I'll
>melt my rain pants on it. Note that I've ridden in a heavy rain and not
>bothered to use the rain suit. With the exception of the inside of my
>boot and pants leg being really soaked, everything else was Ok.

May I suggest a pair of waterproof boots (I have Sidis) and (surprise,
surprise) a Harley rain suit.
The H-D rain suits have a non melting inner leg and a welted rubber
seat.
Not the least expensive but they work better than any other I've had.
It may be the last rain suit you ever have to buy.

http://images.motorcyclecruiser.com/...suit-HD-lg.jpg

Here is a comparison article:
http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/acc...son/index.html

Riding into Madison WI this past summer I hit a real heavy rain storm.
About 4" in an hour or so.
Not a drop got by my suit and if it hadn't been for all the cars
slowing down because they couldn't see through their windshields even
my face would have been dry in my half helmet.
That was with the short windshield too.
--
Bob Mann

Sex is like air; it's not important unless you
aren't getting any

"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:iofpl3te75k3ps0thrip70rucqedsm7s5g@4ax.com...


> May I suggest a pair of waterproof boots (I have Sidis) and (surprise,
> surprise) a Harley rain suit.
> The H-D rain suits have a non melting inner leg and a welted rubber
> seat.
> Not the least expensive but they work better than any other I've had.
> It may be the last rain suit you ever have to buy.
>
> http://images.motorcyclecruiser.com/...suit-HD-lg.jpg
>
> Here is a comparison article:
> http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/acc...son/index.html

I am a big Frogg Toggs (and their clones) fan. I've spent a fair amount of
time riding in rain gear, and they are even better even than the HD suits.
Light, easy to put on, easy to repack repack. Most of all, they BREATHE
better than most others that are basically portable saunas, and are more
comfortable than the suits in the article you reference, In all fairness,
Frogg Toggs did not become popular until after it was written.

Good boots are a no brainer, I do Sidis myself.

We were three miles into the twisties on Deep Canyon Parkway,
when over the crackle of static I heard Michael R. Kesti's voice
in my headset, saying:

> I find nothing impressive about a vehicle that is blurry at zero velocity

DSFDF...

> The Twin Cam wasn't initially used in the Softail model family before
> the year 2000.

However, my '99 Electra Glide has a rubber-mounted twin-cam A motor.

> I found no reference, though, to an attempt to patent vibrations. Can
> you provide a citation?

My comment was a spoof on the MoCo's attempt to trademark the Harley's
exhaust sound. See http://www.lectlaw.com/files/inp14.htm

Sean_Q_
'99 FLHTCUI SE3

Bob Mann wrote:

>>> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
>>> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.

>> Which one being like the vintage wine?
>
> If you have to ask............... ;-)

I was just kidding, of course; naturally the Harley is like the fine
wine; its vintage goes back 100 years.

SQ

"Bob Mann" <Bobo@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:iofpl3te75k3ps0thrip70rucqedsm7s5g@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:21:31 -0900, "Robert Bolton"
> <robertboltondrop@gci.net> wrote:
>
>>Water protection....My Concours is water cooled and has a full fairing
>>that provides a complete shield from my head to ankles (feet can get wet
>>passing through standing water). The radiator stops any water that may
>>be
>>entering via the radiator opening in the fairing. The Electra Glide
>>suffers from needing a path for air cooling. The two part protection
>>(windshield/fairing and separate lowers) isn't bad really. I think
>>maybe
>>my knees catch a little water that slips in-between the two perhaps, but
>>not a lot. However, the air stream required to cool the engine allows
>>water to sweep around the cylinders and soak the inside of my boot and
>>inside bottom of my leather pants. The right side isn't too bad as the
>>exhaust pipe helps shield me from the airstrem on that side. My left
>>boot
>>got soaked in an hour of good rain on the highway. >>SOAKED<<.
>>
>>This exhaust pipe worries me though. While I've yet to ride the EG
>>with
>>rain gear, the pipe sits maybe at ankle level, making me wonder if I'll
>>melt my rain pants on it. Note that I've ridden in a heavy rain and not
>>bothered to use the rain suit. With the exception of the inside of my
>>boot and pants leg being really soaked, everything else was Ok.
>
> May I suggest a pair of waterproof boots (I have Sidis) and (surprise,
> surprise) a Harley rain suit.
> The H-D rain suits have a non melting inner leg and a welted rubber
> seat.
> Not the least expensive but they work better than any other I've had.
> It may be the last rain suit you ever have to buy.
>
My sister actually has a Harley rain suit with the heat guard on it so
I've seen one. I don't have proper footwear right now as I'm still
wearing Red Wing lace-ups. Sometimes I change into shoes at work but most
of the time I just wear the lace-ups. We'll see. Maybe I'll just get a
pair of gaters. It's not easy being lazy.

> http://images.motorcyclecruiser.com/...suit-HD-lg.jpg
>
> Here is a comparison article:
> http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/acc...son/index.html
>
> Riding into Madison WI this past summer I hit a real heavy rain storm.
> About 4" in an hour or so.
> Not a drop got by my suit and if it hadn't been for all the cars
> slowing down because they couldn't see through their windshields even
> my face would have been dry in my half helmet.
> That was with the short windshield too.

Yeah, other than the lower part of the inside of the leg the Electra Glide
itself does OK for keeping you dry, at least for the hour I rode in the
rain.

Robert

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:39:55 GMT, Sean <no.spam@no.spam> wrote:

>Bob Mann wrote:
>
>>>> The differance between a 'Wing and a Harley is like the differance between a
>>>> fine vintage wine and a bottle of Thunderbird.
>
>>> Which one being like the vintage wine?
>>
>> If you have to ask............... ;-)
>
>I was just kidding, of course; naturally the Harley is like the fine
>wine; its vintage goes back 100 years.

So does good vinegar :-)

>
>SQ

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