Having gone to Derby and back yesterday, it gave me a chance to test
out my new Arai, the purchase of which I had been eagerly awaiting for
a while.

1. If fits, and hence doesn't try and lift of my head at speeds over
70mph like the old Quantum used to.

2. By fuck it's noisy. I may have to get some earplugs for the France
trip - 5 hours straight of that will render me almost deaf. I don't
know why it's that much noisier than all the other Arais I've had.

3. These little levers used to remove the visor - WTF are they all
about? Annoying little fuckers, aren't they? Specially when they fall
inside the side pod and you need something to prise them out again.
What was wrong with the old system of just twist and pull, eh?

Overall, #1 trumps #2 and #3 (just) but overall it's not quite the
"oooh, this new lid is *lovely*" experience I was hoping for.

--
Chris

CT wrote:
> 2. By fuck it's noisy. I may have to get some earplugs for the France
> trip - 5 hours straight of that will render me almost deaf. I don't
> know why it's that much noisier than all the other Arais I've had.

They all do that, sir. The side pods create quite a bit of turbulence
which manifests as noise.

I finally remembered to wear some earplugs while riding at the weekend.
After months of forgetting, I put a pack in my trouser pocket so I'd
have some handy. Somewhere around Kettering I had to pull over and take
them out. Hateful things.


> 3. These little levers used to remove the visor - WTF are they all
> about? Annoying little fuckers, aren't they? Specially when they fall
> inside the side pod and you need something to prise them out again.
> What was wrong with the old system of just twist and pull, eh?

I've had Arais with those little levers for 8 years now and never had a
problem with them, other than being a bit of a PITA to engage when
trying to remove the visor.

Might try a Shoei next time (if I can get my head in, anyway - I have an
Arai-shaped head) as their visor mech looks quite tidy.

--
ogden

RGV250
GSXR1000

ogden wrote:

> CT wrote:
> > 2. By fuck it's noisy. I may have to get some earplugs for the
> > France trip - 5 hours straight of that will render me almost deaf.
> > I don't know why it's that much noisier than all the other Arais
> > I've had.
>
> They all do that, sir. The side pods create quite a bit of turbulence
> which manifests as noise.

Yes, but I've had four Arais now, all with side-pods and this one is
*far* noisier than the others.

> I finally remembered to wear some earplugs while riding at the
> weekend. After months of forgetting, I put a pack in my trouser
> pocket so I'd have some handy. Somewhere around Kettering I had to
> pull over and take them out. Hateful things.

I've never like using them, but I might have to get some for France as
it's a long old schlep.

> > 3. These little levers used to remove the visor - WTF are they all
> > about? Annoying little fuckers, aren't they? Specially when they
> > fall inside the side pod and you need something to prise them out
> > again. What was wrong with the old system of just twist and pull,
> > eh?
>
> I've had Arais with those little levers for 8 years now and never had
> a problem with them, other than being a bit of a PITA to engage when
> trying to remove the visor.

I can't see that they add anything apart from making the operation even
more fiddly. The visors (and hence locking mechanism) are exactly the
same as the old ones which just "twist and pull". It took me a couple
of minutes to swap over to a clear visor on the way back last night,
whereas I reckon I could have changed one over on my old Quantum in
seconds.

> Might try a Shoei next time (if I can get my head in, anyway - I have
> an Arai-shaped head) as their visor mech looks quite tidy.

Shoeis (and many other manufacturers) just don't fit me comfortably,
but we've done this argument to death, and very recently!

--
Chris

CT wrote:

> Having gone to Derby and back yesterday, it gave me a chance to test
> out my new Arai, the purchase of which I had been eagerly awaiting for
> a while.
>
> 1. If fits, and hence doesn't try and lift of my head at speeds over
> 70mph like the old Quantum used to.
>
> 2. By fuck it's noisy. I may have to get some earplugs for the France
> trip - 5 hours straight of that will render me almost deaf. I don't
> know why it's that much noisier than all the other Arais I've had.

As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who never
wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there are no old
bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear properly.

--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i
'02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)

CT wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>
> > Might try a Shoei next time (if I can get my head in, anyway - I have
> > an Arai-shaped head) as their visor mech looks quite tidy.
>
> Shoeis (and many other manufacturers) just don't fit me comfortably,
> but we've done this argument to death, and very recently!

Yes. I know.

--
ogden

RGV250
GSXR1000

Krusty wrote:
> CT wrote:
>
> > Having gone to Derby and back yesterday, it gave me a chance to test
> > out my new Arai, the purchase of which I had been eagerly awaiting for
> > a while.
> >
> > 1. If fits, and hence doesn't try and lift of my head at speeds over
> > 70mph like the old Quantum used to.
> >
> > 2. By fuck it's noisy. I may have to get some earplugs for the France
> > trip - 5 hours straight of that will render me almost deaf. I don't
> > know why it's that much noisier than all the other Arais I've had.
>
> As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who never
> wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there are no old
> bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear properly.

What?

--
ogden

RGV250
GSXR1000

ogden wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
> > CT wrote:
> >
> > > Having gone to Derby and back yesterday, it gave me a chance to
> > > test out my new Arai, the purchase of which I had been eagerly
> > > awaiting for a while.
> > >
> > > 1. If fits, and hence doesn't try and lift of my head at speeds
> > > over 70mph like the old Quantum used to.
> > >
> > > 2. By fuck it's noisy. I may have to get some earplugs for the
> > > France trip - 5 hours straight of that will render me almost
> > > deaf. I don't know why it's that much noisier than all the other
> > > Arais I've had.
> >
> > As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who
> > never wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there are
> > no old bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear properly.
>
> What?

Five past ten.

--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i
'02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)

In communiqué <[email protected]>, Krusty
<[email protected]> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>CT wrote:
>
>> Having gone to Derby and back yesterday, it gave me a chance to test
>> out my new Arai, the purchase of which I had been eagerly awaiting for
>> a while.
>>
>> 1. If fits, and hence doesn't try and lift of my head at speeds over
>> 70mph like the old Quantum used to.
>>
>> 2. By fuck it's noisy. I may have to get some earplugs for the France
>> trip - 5 hours straight of that will render me almost deaf. I don't
>> know why it's that much noisier than all the other Arais I've had.
>
>As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who never
>wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there are no old
>bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear properly.
>

What did you say Sonny?

There are also old bikers who never wear earplugs, but also rarely ride
long distances, didn't commute by bike for long periods, and understand
the time/amplitude dose related nature of noise induced hearing loss.

Plus, there are old gimmers who never rode bikes or worked in noisy
industries who can't hear properly (though they once could). This is a
factor which must be considered in respect of your logic.

TBF though, as I'm sure Mr Carley would agree, the benefits of earplugs
outweigh the disadvantages.


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Krusty wrote:
> ogden wrote:
> > Krusty wrote:
> > > As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who
> > > never wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there are
> > > no old bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear properly.
> >
> > What?
>
> Five past ten.

Is that what it says on your bit of paper?

--
ogden

RGV250
GSXR1000

ogden wrote:

> Krusty wrote:
> > ogden wrote:
> > > Krusty wrote:
> > > > As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who
> > > > never wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there
> > > > are no old bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear
> > > > properly.
> > >
> > > What?
> >
> > Five past ten.
>
> Is that what it says on your bit of paper?

<confused>

--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i
'02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)

Krusty wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>
>> Krusty wrote:
>>> ogden wrote:
>>>> Krusty wrote:
>>>>> As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who
>>>>> never wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there
>>>>> are no old bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear
>>>>> properly.
>>>> What?
>>> Five past ten.
>> Is that what it says on your bit of paper?
>
> <confused>
>

He's fallen in the water.

--
Soy.
Ducati 750SS
Suzuki GSX650F

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:26:02 GMT, ogden <[email protected]> allegedly wrote:

> Might try a Shoei next time (if I can get my head in, anyway - I have an
> Arai-shaped head) as their visor mech looks quite tidy.

According to Lozzo, that's bollocks.

For me though, the Arais are too narrow and I have problems getting them
over my head. On some models the chin bar is also too close. Same with
the Sharks. Shoeis and AGVs are wider and fit me better.

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:21:44 GMT, ogden <[email protected]> allegedly wrote:

>> > What?
>>
>> Five past ten.
>
> Is that what it says on your bit of paper?

heh.

Le Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:15:07 +0000, Switters a écrit*:

> For me though, the Arais are too narrow and I have problems getting them
> over my head. On some models the chin bar is also too close. Same with
> the Sharks. Shoeis and AGVs are wider and fit me better.

Some sort of BGN syndrome?

--
La Bête des Vosges

Switters wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:26:02 GMT, ogden <[email protected]> allegedly wrote:
>
> > Might try a Shoei next time (if I can get my head in, anyway - I have an
> > Arai-shaped head) as their visor mech looks quite tidy.
>
> According to Lozzo, that's bollocks.

Yes, thankyou Mr Murray.

Standards really are dropping round here.


> For me though, the Arais are too narrow and I have problems getting them
> over my head.

That's exactly the problem I had with Shoei last time I tried - I simply
couldn't get my head in. And my head is *small*!

--
ogden

RGV250
GSXR1000

Pete Fisher wrote:
>
> TBF though, as I'm sure Mr Carley would agree, the benefits of
> earplugs outweigh the disadvantages.

One of the reasons I wear earplugs is that I seem to be sensitive to
pressure effects. The noise isn't generally too bad, but the
suction/compression stuff can be painful.

"Krusty" <[email protected]> wrote:

>As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who never
>wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there are no old
>bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear properly.

It's not the snappiest saying I've ever heard.

vulgarandmischevious wrote:

> "Krusty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > As the saying goes, there are old bikers, & there are bikers who
> > never wear earplugs but can still hear properly; however there are
> > no old bikers who never wear earplugs but can still hear properly.
>
> It's not the snappiest saying I've ever heard.

Try it with a German accent, it makes all the difference.

--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i
'02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)