Anyone heard of getting a replacement Euro licence,in order to put on
a full motorcycle licence on it - as an older long standing CBT rider
I am wondering about doing this ?

On Aug 26, 12:57*pm, Potzo <ph07...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Anyone heard of getting a replacement Euro licence,in order to put on
> a full motorcycle licence on it - as an older long standing CBT rider
> I am wondering about doing this ?

I saw a web-site a year or so ago that offered to do all of the
paperwork for you to apply for a licence in another European country
and swear that you were entitled to certain categories in order to get
a licence you could then trade for a UK one - is that what you're
talking about?

Either my Googling mojo has gone or the web-site has, either way I
wouldn't think that handing over money and idenity details to people
operating right on the very edges of the law is a good idea. If
you're very lucky they might send you 20 pages worth of small print
Albanian forms to fill in, more likely they'll empty your bank
account, they might even wait until you've perjured yourself in
writing and then blackmail you.

Fortunately there is a little known loop-hole which allows you to
convert your CBT to a full bike licence for only a few pounds and in
less than an hour ... what's more if you get it done in the next month
then you won't even have to do back-flips through fiery hops.

On Aug 26, 1:14*pm, AndrewR <and...@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> fiery hops.

Mmmm, hoppy[1].

The sad thing is I typed "hopes", gave myself a slap, changed it to
"hops", thought, "That doesn't look right" and then hit "Send" anyway.

[1] And froddy.

In article <181de640-e99f-445d-a788-f64a4c765ad6@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
AndrewR <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Fortunately there is a little known loop-hole which allows you to
>convert your CBT to a full bike licence for only a few pounds and in
>less than an hour ... what's more if you get it done in the next month
>then you won't even have to do back-flips through fiery hops.

What's the current availability on bike tests, though? I reckon you
might find it difficult to book a free slot in the next month.

--
CB500 (blue + flies)

On Aug 26, 2:27*pm, Nick <n...@0.0.0.0> wrote:
> In article <181de640-e99f-445d-a788-f64a4c765...@v39g2000pro.googlegroups..com>,

> What's the current availability on bike tests, though? I reckon you
> might find it difficult to book a free slot in the next month.

You're right, it might be difficult - far better to give your cash to
a bunch of Internet conmen. It's the only way to get the kind of
training that you need.

"AndrewR" <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:181de640-e99f-445d-a788-f64a4c765ad6@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 26, 12:57 pm, Potzo <ph07...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Anyone heard of getting a replacement Euro licence,in order to put on
> a full motorcycle licence on it - as an older long standing CBT rider
> I am wondering about doing this ?

I saw a web-site a year or so ago that offered to do all of the
paperwork for you to apply for a licence in another European country
and swear that you were entitled to certain categories in order to get
a licence you could then trade for a UK one - is that what you're
talking about?


This was mentioned on ukrm a while ago, and I investigated. I concluded
that it's a scam - gosh, no, surely not - and not only because "if it looks
likes a scam it probably is one". I checked out a few of the websites of
countries which were purportedly being used to procure licences, such as
Malta and Cyprus. There's an EU-wide 6-month residential requirement before
you can switch licences, and the dodgy website in question says that they
have found a way around it. Oh yeah! The website was spectacularly
mis-spelt and [not very seriously] I offered to put it into proper English
for them in return for a free or heavily discounted licence. Even after a
merry correspondence, they didn't seem interested in my generous offer. I'm
sure that the fact that they demand payment of ?X00 upfront, and that there
are no verifiable contact details provided, is purely coincidental - and a
tragic oversight.

Of course, it is possible, I suppose, that they do have a number of junior
civil servants in the transport departments of various countries who are
slipping licences out of the back door for them. Somehow, though, it's
unlikely. Let's face it; it's exactly the same as the Nigerian 'unclaimed
money' scams. You pay someone you don't know a substantial sum of money,
against a promised service which is illegal, because you found them on the
interweb. They vanish. Who are you going to complain to? AndrewR's right;
you'd be lucky only to lose ?X00 and not be subject to bank account
stripping and/or blackmail.

I'd only be tempted by this if someone I knew and trusted had done it
successfully. The OP may have a sunnier opinion of human nature, but I'll
simply hang onto my identity details and my money, TYVM.

"Potzo" <ph07961@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:62c12792-c942-4f33-9f29-c321ab2bd8d7@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> Anyone heard of getting a replacement Euro licence,in order to put on
> a full motorcycle licence on it

You can't. Pass your test however and you can.

>- as an older long standing CBT rider
> I am wondering about doing this ?

You can't be longer standing than 2 years. CBT exams only last 2 years and
you can't immediately take another CBT exam either.

--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

Beav wrote:
> "Potzo" <ph07961@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:62c12792-c942-4f33-9f29-c321ab2bd8d7@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> Anyone heard of getting a replacement Euro licence,in order to put on
>> a full motorcycle licence on it
>
> You can't. Pass your test however and you can.
>
>> - as an older long standing CBT rider
>> I am wondering about doing this ?
>
> You can't be longer standing than 2 years. CBT exams only last 2
> years and you can't immediately take another CBT exam either.

Yes you can. Well, you're right that you can't take the exam, because
there's no such thing - it's a certificate of basic training.

"platypus" <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:512tk.48624$E41.34685@text.news.virginmedia.c om...
> Beav wrote:
>> "Potzo" <ph07961@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:62c12792-c942-4f33-9f29-c321ab2bd8d7@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>> Anyone heard of getting a replacement Euro licence,in order to put on
>>> a full motorcycle licence on it
>>
>> You can't. Pass your test however and you can.
>>
>>> - as an older long standing CBT rider
>>> I am wondering about doing this ?
>>
>> You can't be longer standing than 2 years. CBT exams only last 2
>> years and you can't immediately take another CBT exam either.
>
> Yes you can. Well, you're right that you can't take the exam, because
> there's no such thing - it's a certificate of basic training.

Well we (you) can be as pedantic as you like, but the fact remains that you
can fail a gain a CBT certificate and without the certificate you can't
ride, so *someone* is examining your riding abilities and if they're not up
to scratch, you ain't riding. Id call that a test or an exam, wouldn't you?

I know that once upon a time a CBT certificate allowed you to ride on a
provisional license for as long as you wanted, but I believe that changed a
few years ago. Maybe it's the provisional license that only lasts two years,
but whichever it is, provisional or CBT certificate, the "result" is the
same. If you don't pass your practical test within 2 years of getting your
CBT certificate, you don't automagically keep your entitlement to ride.

--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

In article <Ojctk.631$f%6.186@newsfe09.ams2>,
Beav <beavis.original@ntlwoxorld.com> wrote:
>>> You can't be longer standing than 2 years. CBT exams only last 2
>>> years and you can't immediately take another CBT exam either.
>>
>> Yes you can. Well, you're right that you can't take the exam, because
>> there's no such thing - it's a certificate of basic training.
[snip]
>I know that once upon a time a CBT certificate allowed you to ride on a
>provisional license for as long as you wanted, but I believe that changed a
>few years ago. Maybe it's the provisional license that only lasts two years,
>but whichever it is, provisional or CBT certificate, the "result" is the
>same. If you don't pass your practical test within 2 years of getting your
>CBT certificate, you don't automagically keep your entitlement to ride.

I think what he was taking issue with was where you said "you can't
immediately take another CBT exam either". You can - it's entirely
possible and legal to keep riding on L plates, retaking the CBT every 2
years. And now the full test has got harder and more expensive there
will be more people taking this option.

--
CB500 (blue + flies)

Beav wrote:
>
> "platypus" <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:512tk.48624$E41.34685@text.news.virginmedia.c om...
> > Beav wrote:
> >> "Potzo" <ph07961@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:62c12792-c942-4f33-9f29-c321ab2bd8d7@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Anyone heard of getting a replacement Euro licence,in order to put on
> >>> a full motorcycle licence on it
> >>
> >> You can't. Pass your test however and you can.
> >>
> >>> - as an older long standing CBT rider
> >>> I am wondering about doing this ?
> >>
> >> You can't be longer standing than 2 years. CBT exams only last 2
> >> years and you can't immediately take another CBT exam either.
> >
> > Yes you can. Well, you're right that you can't take the exam, because
> > there's no such thing - it's a certificate of basic training.
>
> Well we (you) can be as pedantic as you like, but the fact remains that you
> can fail a gain a CBT certificate and without the certificate you can't
> ride, so *someone* is examining your riding abilities and if they're not up
> to scratch, you ain't riding. Id call that a test or an exam, wouldn't you?
>
> I know that once upon a time a CBT certificate allowed you to ride on a
> provisional license for as long as you wanted, but I believe that changed a
> few years ago. Maybe it's the provisional license that only lasts two years,
> but whichever it is, provisional or CBT certificate, the "result" is the
> same. If you don't pass your practical test within 2 years of getting your
> CBT certificate, you don't automagically keep your entitlement to ride.

It changed more than a few years ago. I did my CBT in 1993 and the cert
was only valid for two years.

And yes, semantics aside, I agree entirely that you can "fail" the CBT.
my clutch control was so horrendous (at 16) that I can within a gnat's
whisker of failing. Or not passing. Whatever you want to call it.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22