In article <m8vna41skoc1vldgnb0uocpq7ph26kutmj@4ax.com>, ginge says...
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:46:08 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >I won't buy Dunlops again, so it's all immaterial for me anyway
>
> I remember, "Tyres of death!"

They just weren't all that, and nor has any Dunlop I've ever used been
all that. I'm sure the new ones are great if Andy says they are, but
AFAIC Dunlop owe at least a dozen pairs of clean undercrackers, for
crimes committed on me over the years.

I'm looking at the FWR website now, and there are lots of choices ...
I'm wondering if I'm being silly by insisting on Renns, just coz I like
them ... I think I might ask them what they recommend, as I'm completely
out of touch with tyres. The 9R loved 010s, but they're museum pieces
now, and I've no idea what's what ... I dare Renns have been completely
overtaken too.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear wrote:
>
> [1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
> at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?

The pay's shit.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

His: ZX-9R, Elefant 900 http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm
Hers: Monster S4R, GSX600F (breaking, everything must go!)

"Eddie" <eddie@deguello.org> wrote in message
news:d4dtn5-nos.ln1@deguello.org...
> Bear wrote:
>>
>> [1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
>> at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?
>
> The pay's shit.
>

LOL

--
Steve Parry
BMW R80RS, BMW R45, 01 Kawasaki ZX12-R, 07 K1200GT SE
95 BMW F650, 87 Yamaha FS1, Sukida SK90PY, 91 Kawasaki AR50,
07 VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
www.gwynfryn.co.uk

In article <MPG.23160ea49b17f84598a16e@news.individual.de>, Bear says...
> In article <m8vna41skoc1vldgnb0uocpq7ph26kutmj@4ax.com>, ginge says...
> > On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:46:08 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >I won't buy Dunlops again, so it's all immaterial for me anyway
> >
> > I remember, "Tyres of death!"
>
> They just weren't all that, and nor has any Dunlop I've ever used been
> all that. I'm sure the new ones are great if Andy says they are, but
> AFAIC Dunlop owe at least a dozen pairs of clean undercrackers, for
> crimes committed on me over the years.
>
> I'm looking at the FWR website now, and there are lots of choices ...
> I'm wondering if I'm being silly by insisting on Renns, just coz I like
> them ... I think I might ask them what they recommend, as I'm completely
> out of touch with tyres. The 9R loved 010s, but they're museum pieces
> now, and I've no idea what's what ... I dare Renns have been completely
> overtaken too.

lol ... talk about "you can't win".

Just spoke to the chap at FWR - nice geezer I must say. His opinion was
that Renns are OTT for the road (not good in the wet, not good across
bumps, potholes and the like, which I can't say I've ever found to be
the case, but ok) so he recommends Diablo Corsas (which are what I think
I've got on there ATM - Loz, can you recall?) or ... wait for it ...
Dunlop RR Qualifiers

When I hesitated he said that the odd behaviour of the current set could
be due to squaring off (which I think he's right about), and he carries
the lot in stock anyway (Renns, Corsas, SuperCorsas, Dunlop RR,
Michelins, you name it), so why don't I pop down tomorrow evening for
their late opening session (til 8pm) and have a natter, which I think
sounds like a good idea. I've got my one day a week in the office
tomorrow, so I'll try to get out early and then pop over.

PS: I also liked the way, when I said I wanted something sticky for the
IoM, coz it's fast, he said "no you don't, you want something that grips
in the wet, coz it always pisses down ... I should know, I bloody raced
there"
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article <d4dtn5-nos.ln1@deguello.org>, Eddie says...
> Bear wrote:
> >
> > [1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
> > at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?
>
> The pay's shit.

True, but I'm a very considerate employer.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

antonye wrote:

> I am mighty impressed with them, but then there's also a few of
> the "racers" [1] that insist on changing theirs for every race.
> Which is nice 'cos they flog them on for about £50 a pair!

I'm sticking the Renns that are on my CBR onto the SV. There's loads of
life in them, but they are just starting to slide about on track when
pushed too hard. It's good having two bikes that take the same sizes of
tyres.

--
Lozzo

Bear wrote:


> Ooh I like that idea too, as I don't think we've met have we?

He's Welsh, has a BMW bike collection and falls off. In his defence his
burd is fit looking, but a bit broken at the mo.

--
Lozzo

Bear wrote:
> In article <d4dtn5-nos.ln1@deguello.org>, Eddie says...
>> Bear wrote:
>>> [1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
>>> at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?
>> The pay's shit.
>
> True, but I'm a very considerate employer.

They all say that. You'll be harping on about work/life balance next.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

His: ZX-9R, Elefant 900 http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm
Hers: Monster S4R, GSX600F (breaking, everything must go!)

Eddie wrote:
> Bear wrote:
> > In article <d4dtn5-nos.ln1@deguello.org>, Eddie says...
> >> Bear wrote:
> >>> [1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
> >>> at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?
> >> The pay's shit.
> >
> > True, but I'm a very considerate employer.
>
> They all say that. You'll be harping on about work/life balance next.

Nah, Champ'll pop up with a John O'Farrell quote.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

ogden wrote:
> Eddie wrote:
>> Bear wrote:
>>> In article <d4dtn5-nos.ln1@deguello.org>, Eddie says...
>>>> Bear wrote:
>>>>> [1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
>>>>> at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?
>>>> The pay's shit.
>>> True, but I'm a very considerate employer.
>> They all say that. You'll be harping on about work/life balance next.
>
> Nah, Champ'll pop up with a John O'Farrell quote.
>

Funny how your attention floats when you've got the flu.

From looking up John O'Farrell I've learned about social loafing,
evaluation apprehension and production blocking. Don't ask me how I
stumbled across them but it was all in a valiant effort to reserve a
copy of "An Utterly Impartial History Of Britain - Or 2000 Years of
Upper Class Idiots in Charge" from the local library.

I don't think I'll have the energy to get out of bed to get to the
library for another day or so. If there is anybody able to find the BBC
Radio 4 serialisation of the book please post a link.

--
DozynSleepy

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:

>
>New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
>the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
>starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>
>What's the current hoop of choice?
>
>The RGV could be a little more interesting, as it weighs sod all and
>has old-skool sizes - 110/70 and 150/60, iirc. Michelin don't seem to
>do their 2CTs in those sizes.
>
>The floor is open...

BT015s on the GSXR.

Like 010s, and 014s only better.
--
GSX-R1000K8

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:13:26 +0100, ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
>>the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
>>starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>>
>>What's the current hoop of choice?
>
>My local tyre fitter is pushing Dunlop Qualifier RR's as the latest
>cure for all ills.

They were shit on my 10R. Much better with 015s on.
--
GSX-R1000K8

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:31:44 +0100, ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:15:49 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <4frna4h96ekil2858r171ccghincrinull@4ax.com>, ginge says...
>>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
>>> >the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
>>> >starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>>> >
>>> >What's the current hoop of choice?
>>>
>>> My local tyre fitter is pushing Dunlop Qualifier RR's as the latest
>>> cure for all ills.
>>
>>Andy Bonwick's got those hasn't he?
>
>I think so, yeah.
>
>I've got the non RR versions as factory fit, but they're just average.

Oh, ignore the first bit of my comment above then. Mind you, if
they've got the same profile, then it stands because that was what I
had a problem with.
--
GSX-R1000K8

In article <c5koa4929rjrc5kv4eres1t2s2lvtggdtu@4ax.com>, Ben says...
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
> >the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
> >starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
> >
> >What's the current hoop of choice?
> >
> >The RGV could be a little more interesting, as it weighs sod all and
> >has old-skool sizes - 110/70 and 150/60, iirc. Michelin don't seem to
> >do their 2CTs in those sizes.
> >
> >The floor is open...
>
> BT015s on the GSXR.
>
> Like 010s, and 014s only better.

Wow. I like the sound of that
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

ogden wrote:

<thread hijack>

The Sprint ST is going in tomorrow to get the "non starting" bit sorted
out as well as having its 6000 mile service. Additionally, it could do
with a new rear tyre.

So, do I try and match the front OE 020 with another 020, or even the
021, or shall I change both and of so, for what?

I'm usually a "black, round ones" type of bloke but I am going to
attempt to ride more through the winter this year[1] and so would
prefer something that will be good in the wet and cold.

[1] My old 35 mile commute has changed to <10 miles after moving from
Harrow.
--
Chris

CT wrote:
> I'm usually a "black, round ones" type of bloke but I am going to
> attempt to ride more through the winter this year[1] and so would
> prefer something that will be good in the wet and cold.

Have you considered a car?

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

ogden wrote:

> Have you considered a car?

I've got one but I have considered pissing away the proceeds of selling
my flats on a DB9. Why do you ask?

--
Chris

CT wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>
> > Have you considered a car?
>
> I've got one but I have considered pissing away the proceeds of selling
> my flats on a DB9. Why do you ask?

Because you said you'd "something that will be good in the wet and
cold"

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:52:14 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> squeezed out
the following:

>CT wrote:
>> ogden wrote:
>>
>> > Have you considered a car?
>>
>> I've got one but I have considered pissing away the proceeds of selling
>> my flats on a DB9. Why do you ask?
>
>Because you said you'd "something that will be good in the wet and
>cold"

So why not suggest a nice Gortex jacket?

--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

Colin Irvine wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:52:14 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> squeezed out
> the following:
>
> > CT wrote:
> >> ogden wrote:
> >>
> >> > Have you considered a car?
> >>
> >> I've got one but I have considered pissing away the proceeds of
> selling >> my flats on a DB9. Why do you ask?
> >
> > Because you said you'd "something that will be good in the wet and
> > cold"
>
> So why not suggest a nice Gortex jacket?

Look, when you two have quite finished...

I have car. I have a Goretex jacket.

What motorcycle tyre(s) should I buy to fit my Sprint? I would like a
tyre compound that gives good grip in cold and wet weather.

--
Chris

On 21 Aug 2008 09:38:07 GMT, "CT" <me@christrollen.co.uk> squeezed out
the following:

>Colin Irvine wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:52:14 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> squeezed out
>> the following:
>>
>> > CT wrote:
>> >> ogden wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Have you considered a car?
>> >>
>> >> I've got one but I have considered pissing away the proceeds of
>> selling >> my flats on a DB9. Why do you ask?
>> >
>> > Because you said you'd "something that will be good in the wet and
>> > cold"
>>
>> So why not suggest a nice Gortex jacket?
>
>Look, when you two have quite finished...
>
>I have car. I have a Goretex jacket.
>
>What motorcycle tyre(s) should I buy to fit my Sprint? I would like a
>tyre compound that gives good grip in cold and wet weather.

Oh, ok. Well, from my very, very limited experience - I've found 020s
slow to warm up, and dodgy until they do, whereas the 010s and 014s
I've had have been grippier from the off. Fewer longevity, mind.

--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

CT wrote:
> Colin Irvine wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:52:14 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> squeezed out
> > the following:
> >
> > > CT wrote:
> > >> ogden wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Have you considered a car?
> > >>
> > >> I've got one but I have considered pissing away the proceeds of
> > selling >> my flats on a DB9. Why do you ask?
> > >
> > > Because you said you'd "something that will be good in the wet and
> > > cold"
> >
> > So why not suggest a nice Gortex jacket?
>
> Look, when you two have quite finished...
>
> I have car. I have a Goretex jacket.
>
> What motorcycle tyre(s) should I buy to fit my Sprint? I would like a
> tyre compound that gives good grip in cold and wet weather.

No idea. Riding a bike in cold and wet weather doesn't sound very
pleasant so I don't generally bother.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

In article <e7gqa41unrb7f9jkpbhk5uc4noinqjvom7@4ax.com>, Colin Irvine
says...

> Fewer longevity, mind.

*nice*

Aren't the Loz-recommended Azaros the touring tyre of choice now?

I forget
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article <MPG.23175499534f06169896bf@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
says...
> CT wrote:
> > Colin Irvine wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:52:14 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> squeezed out
> > > the following:
> > >
> > > > CT wrote:
> > > >> ogden wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Have you considered a car?
> > > >>
> > > >> I've got one but I have considered pissing away the proceeds of
> > > selling >> my flats on a DB9. Why do you ask?
> > > >
> > > > Because you said you'd "something that will be good in the wet and
> > > > cold"
> > >
> > > So why not suggest a nice Gortex jacket?
> >
> > Look, when you two have quite finished...
> >
> > I have car. I have a Goretex jacket.
> >
> > What motorcycle tyre(s) should I buy to fit my Sprint? I would like a
> > tyre compound that gives good grip in cold and wet weather.
>
> No idea. Riding a bike in cold and wet weather doesn't sound very
> pleasant so I don't generally bother.

It doesn't look like I'm going to have much of a choice

http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Douglas-IMXX0002

Still, the IoM weather is a law unto itself, so it could go either way.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:48:03 +0100, ginge
<the.gingeREMOVE@THISgmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:43:00 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <MPG.23175499534f06169896bf@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
>>says...
>
>>> No idea. Riding a bike in cold and wet weather doesn't sound very
>>> pleasant so I don't generally bother.
>>
>>It doesn't look like I'm going to have much of a choice
>>
>>http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Douglas-IMXX0002
>>
>>Still, the IoM weather is a law unto itself, so it could go either way.
>
>I'm consoling myself with the fact my brand new tyre should be
>scrubbed in by the ride to liverpool... on the M6.
>
Just go and ride the bike to the Black Horse and it'll be job done.

Bear wrote:
> http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Douglas-IMXX0002

Heh. Doesn't this just sum up weather in these isles?

http://www.pre.org/summer.JPG

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:40:48 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
squeezed out the following:

>In article <e7gqa41unrb7f9jkpbhk5uc4noinqjvom7@4ax.com>, Colin Irvine
>says...
>
>> Fewer longevity, mind.
>
>*nice*
>
>Aren't the Loz-recommended Azaros the touring tyre of choice now?
>
>I forget

And you're asking me to remember? You've forgotten how old I am as
well, haven't you?

--
Colin Irvine
ZZR1400 BOF#33 BONY#34 COFF#06 BHaLC#5
http://www.colinandpat.co.uk

ogden wrote:
> Bear wrote:
>> http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Douglas-IMXX0002
>
> Heh. Doesn't this just sum up weather in these isles?
>
> http://www.pre.org/summer.JPG

Move north:
http://homepages.gotadsl.co.uk/~degu...hernSummer.PNG

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

His: ZX-9R, Elefant 900 http://www.last.fm/group/ukrm
Hers: Monster S4R, GSX600F (breaking, everything must go!)

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:43:00 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <MPG.23175499534f06169896bf@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
>says...

>> No idea. Riding a bike in cold and wet weather doesn't sound very
>> pleasant so I don't generally bother.
>
>It doesn't look like I'm going to have much of a choice
>
>http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Douglas-IMXX0002
>
>Still, the IoM weather is a law unto itself, so it could go either way.

I'm consoling myself with the fact my brand new tyre should be
scrubbed in by the ride to liverpool... on the M6.

Oh.

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:05:44 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:

>Eddie wrote:
>> Bear wrote:
>> > In article <d4dtn5-nos.ln1@deguello.org>, Eddie says...
>> >> Bear wrote:
>> >>> [1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
>> >>> at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?
>> >> The pay's shit.
>> >
>> > True, but I'm a very considerate employer.
>>
>> They all say that. You'll be harping on about work/life balance next.
>
>Nah, Champ'll pop up with a John O'Farrell quote.

Glad I read down the thread...
--
Champ
What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger
ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R600 racer (for sale) | ZX10R racer (broken)
neal at champ dot org dot uk