New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.

What's the current hoop of choice?

The RGV could be a little more interesting, as it weighs sod all and
has old-skool sizes - 110/70 and 150/60, iirc. Michelin don't seem to
do their 2CTs in those sizes.

The floor is open...

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:

>
>New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
>the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
>starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>
>What's the current hoop of choice?

My local tyre fitter is pushing Dunlop Qualifier RR's as the latest
cure for all ills.

ogden wrote:
>
> What's the current hoop of choice?

Phill says that Dunlop GPR10a is the tyre of choice according
to RGV250.co.uk and he reckons they're pretty good, but obviously
this is only track riding related.

He bought his through a weekend special at Busters for £110
a pair, so he bought two pairs.

--
Antony

In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
says...

> The floor is open...

Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to the
IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.

I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article <4frna4h96ekil2858r171ccghincrinull@4ax.com>, ginge says...
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
> >the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
> >starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
> >
> >What's the current hoop of choice?
>
> My local tyre fitter is pushing Dunlop Qualifier RR's as the latest
> cure for all ills.

Andy Bonwick's got those hasn't he?
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

antonye wrote:
> ogden wrote:
>
> > What's the current hoop of choice?
>
> Phill says that Dunlop GPR10a is the tyre of choice according
> to RGV250.co.uk and he reckons they're pretty good, but obviously
> this is only track riding related.
>
> He bought his through a weekend special at Busters for £110
> a pair, so he bought two pairs.

Here you go:
http://www.busters-accessories.co.uk...?catRef=565809

--
Antony

ogden wrote:

>
> New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares
> on the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
> starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>
> What's the current hoop of choice?
>
> The RGV could be a little more interesting, as it weighs sod all and
> has old-skool sizes - 110/70 and 150/60, iirc. Michelin don't seem to
> do their 2CTs in those sizes.
>
> The floor is open...

Dunlop Alpha 10s on the RGV, available in the right sizes too - you'll
be impressed, I know I was when I tried them at Donington on the RGV
Danny had.

Pirelli Diablo Corsa 3s or Michelin Pilot Power 2CTs for the Gixer.

--
Lozzo

antonye wrote:

> ogden wrote:
> >
> > What's the current hoop of choice?
>
> Phill says that Dunlop GPR10a is the tyre of choice according
> to RGV250.co.uk

That's the Alpha 10 I was on about.

--
Lozzo

antonye wrote:

> antonye wrote:
> > ogden wrote:
> >
> > > What's the current hoop of choice?
> >
> > Phill says that Dunlop GPR10a is the tyre of choice according
> > to RGV250.co.uk and he reckons they're pretty good, but obviously
> > this is only track riding related.
> >
> > He bought his through a weekend special at Busters for £110
> > a pair, so he bought two pairs.
>
> Here you go:
> http://www.busters-accessories.co.uk...?catRef=565809

Cheaper to buy a pair from FWR at the mo.

--
Lozzo

Lozzo wrote:
>
> Dunlop Alpha 10s on the RGV, available in the right sizes too - you'll
> be impressed, I know I was when I tried them at Donington on the RGV
> Danny had.

Yup, see my post up there ^^^.

> Pirelli Diablo Corsa 3s

I've got these on the 'Tard [1] and they're very, very nice. They
are now within 10mm of the edge which is pretty impressive for
such a tall bike!

[1] which, amazingly, has the stickiest tyres compared to the race
bike (Pirelli Diablo control tyre) and the 748 (BT-010s I think).

--
Antony

Bear wrote:
> In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> says...
>
> > The floor is open...
>
> Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to the
> IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
>
> I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?

Can you not just swing by FWR? They're hardly far from your gaff.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

Bear wrote:

> In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> says...
>
> > The floor is open...
>
> Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to
> the IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
>
> I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/120-70ZR17-190...port-NEW-Tyres
_W0QQitemZ300224837601QQihZ020QQcategoryZ21669QQtc ZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ
_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

You can collect and the place next door[1] fit to loose wheels for 23
quid staright away. I could meet you in Dunstable with paddock stands
and tools if you're desperate.

[1] Part of the same mob.

--
Lozzo

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:15:49 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <4frna4h96ekil2858r171ccghincrinull@4ax.com>, ginge says...
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
>> >the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
>> >starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>> >
>> >What's the current hoop of choice?
>>
>> My local tyre fitter is pushing Dunlop Qualifier RR's as the latest
>> cure for all ills.
>
>Andy Bonwick's got those hasn't he?

I think so, yeah.

I've got the non RR versions as factory fit, but they're just average.

antonye wrote:
> Lozzo wrote:
> >
> > Dunlop Alpha 10s on the RGV, available in the right sizes too - you'll
> > be impressed, I know I was when I tried them at Donington on the RGV
> > Danny had.
>
> Yup, see my post up there ^^^.

Settles that one then. I practically ride past FWR on my commute to
work so I'll pop in one morning for some hoops.


> > Pirelli Diablo Corsa 3s
>
> I've got these on the 'Tard [1] and they're very, very nice. They
> are now within 10mm of the edge which is pretty impressive for
> such a tall bike!
>
> [1] which, amazingly, has the stickiest tyres compared to the race
> bike (Pirelli Diablo control tyre) and the 748 (BT-010s I think).

The tyres on your 748 must have turned to bakelite by now, surely.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

In article <jisna4tevjj690fuvurkd52htgm1k2cthr@4ax.com>, ginge says...
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:15:49 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <4frna4h96ekil2858r171ccghincrinull@4ax.com>, ginge says...
> >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
> >> >the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
> >> >starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
> >> >
> >> >What's the current hoop of choice?
> >>
> >> My local tyre fitter is pushing Dunlop Qualifier RR's as the latest
> >> cure for all ills.
> >
> >Andy Bonwick's got those hasn't he?
>
> I think so, yeah.
>
> I've got the non RR versions as factory fit, but they're just average.

I won't buy Dunlops again, so it's all immaterial for me anyway
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article <MPG.231600fedc81774f9896a8@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
says...
> Bear wrote:
> > In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> > says...
> >
> > > The floor is open...
> >
> > Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to the
> > IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
> >
> > I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
>
> Can you not just swing by FWR? They're hardly far from your gaff.

Who?

I suppose I could ... I'm getting my hair cut Friday morning, but I'm
not on the ferry til late afternoon, so yeah, very possible.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article <6h29omFhm6roU1@mid.individual.net>, Lozzo says...
> Bear wrote:
>
> > In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> > says...
> >
> > > The floor is open...
> >
> > Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to
> > the IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
> >
> > I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/120-70ZR17-190...port-NEW-Tyres
> _W0QQitemZ300224837601QQihZ020QQcategoryZ21669QQtc ZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ
> _trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

Fuck me that's cheap!

> You can collect and the place next door[1] fit to loose wheels for 23
> quid staright away. I could meet you in Dunstable with paddock stands
> and tools if you're desperate.

Thanks mate, but I think I've messed you about enough of late, and we
still have the loom to go

If there's a decent ride-in, ride-out place near me (which I think Ogden
is saying there is), then I could do it Friday morning and then ride up
to Liverpool on them.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

ogden wrote:
>
> The tyres on your 748 must have turned to bakelite by now, surely.

Heh. They got a damn good ragging round Cadwell for the two-dayer in
June (along with said RGV and the race bike) and they still worked
very well. Which reminds me that I must put the road kit back on
it as I'm sure it needs an MOT now...

The tyres on the race bike are even worse! They went on for Assen
in 2006 (May I think) then did the rest of the season. I started
on them in 2007 and did about 4 rounds before being torpedoed
at Castle Combe in July. The next trackday was at Snetterton in
early 2008, then the two-dayer at Cadwell, and then I raced on
them at Brands in July and came 7th. Still plenty of wear left
on 'em!

--
Antony

Bear wrote:
> In article <MPG.231600fedc81774f9896a8@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> says...
> > Bear wrote:
> > > In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> > > says...
> > >
> > > > The floor is open...
> > >
> > > Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to the
> > > IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
> > >
> > > I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
> >
> > Can you not just swing by FWR? They're hardly far from your gaff.
>
> Who?

Tyre place on Kennington Road, spitting distance from Vauxhall. Ride-in
service, plenty cheapness.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

In article <MPG.2316075df255ed99896aa@news.motzarella.org>, ogden
says...
> Bear wrote:
> > In article <MPG.231600fedc81774f9896a8@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> > says...
> > > Bear wrote:
> > > > In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> > > > says...
> > > >
> > > > > The floor is open...
> > > >
> > > > Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to the
> > > > IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
> > > >
> > > > I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
> > >
> > > Can you not just swing by FWR? They're hardly far from your gaff.
> >
> > Who?
>
> Tyre place on Kennington Road, spitting distance from Vauxhall. Ride-in
> service, plenty cheapness.

Have you used them before? Are they clue-worthy?

If so, that's very close to me, so game on.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article <ee89e4e6-7ef0-41e5-a505-
606de9ef2b8d@v57g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, antonye says...

> The tyres on the race bike are even worse! They went on for Assen
> in 2006 (May I think) then did the rest of the season. I started
> on them in 2007 and did about 4 rounds before being torpedoed
> at Castle Combe in July. The next trackday was at Snetterton in
> early 2008, then the two-dayer at Cadwell, and then I raced on
> them at Brands in July and came 7th. Still plenty of wear left
> on 'em!

Kinell!

<thinks>

Maybe you're not trying hard enough
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear wrote:
>
> If there's a decent ride-in, ride-out place near me (which I think Ogden
> is saying there is), then I could do it Friday morning and then ride up
> to Liverpool on them.

I've just had a look on their web site and they don't list Rennsports
as being a stock item. If you do go that route, it might be worth
giving them a bell to see if they can get some in for Friday.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

"Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.231606f5c6987cd598a167@news.individual.de ...
> In article <6h29omFhm6roU1@mid.individual.net>, Lozzo says...
>> Bear wrote:
>>
>> > In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
>> > says...
>> >
>> > > The floor is open...
>> >
>> > Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to
>> > the IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
>> >
>> > I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/120-70ZR17-190...port-NEW-Tyres
>> _W0QQitemZ300224837601QQihZ020QQcategoryZ21669QQtc ZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ
>> _trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
>
> Fuck me that's cheap!
>
>> You can collect and the place next door[1] fit to loose wheels for 23
>> quid staright away. I could meet you in Dunstable with paddock stands
>> and tools if you're desperate.
>
> Thanks mate, but I think I've messed you about enough of late, and we
> still have the loom to go
>
> If there's a decent ride-in, ride-out place near me (which I think Ogden
> is saying there is), then I could do it Friday morning and then ride up
> to Liverpool on them.

Alternatively, there's the tyre depot I use which you could stop at enroute
to scouseville.

If you come off the M6 and onto the A5 then A483 I can meet you and show you
where they are.

--
Steve Parry
BMW R80RS, BMW R45, 01 Kawasaki ZX12-R, 07 K1200GT SE
95 BMW F650, 87 Yamaha FS1, Sukida SK90PY, 91 Kawasaki AR50,
07 VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
www.gwynfryn.co.uk

Bear wrote:
> In article <MPG.2316075df255ed99896aa@news.motzarella.org>, ogden
> says...
> > Bear wrote:
> > > In article <MPG.231600fedc81774f9896a8@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> > > says...
> > > > Bear wrote:
> > > > > In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> > > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > > The floor is open...
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to the
> > > > > IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
> > > > >
> > > > > I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
> > > >
> > > > Can you not just swing by FWR? They're hardly far from your gaff.
> > >
> > > Who?
> >
> > Tyre place on Kennington Road, spitting distance from Vauxhall. Ride-in
> > service, plenty cheapness.
>
> Have you used them before? Are they clue-worthy?

I used them for tyres on my 7R and B12 and had no problems. Quick,
cheap, always seem to have stock and always busy. I know WC's used
them, as I bumped into him there one saturday a few years ago (iirc he
fell off within minutes of riding away with new rubber) and I'm sure
other UKRMers have too.

See other post re: Rennsports - not listed on the web site, so give
them a call.

--
ogden

GSXR750 K4
RGV250 VJ22

In article <6h2bn5Fiat62U1@mid.individual.net>, Steve Parry says...
>
>
> "Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.231606f5c6987cd598a167@news.individual.de ...
> > In article <6h29omFhm6roU1@mid.individual.net>, Lozzo says...
> >> Bear wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <MPG.2315fc7034b67bd29896a7@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
> >> > says...
> >> >
> >> > > The floor is open...
> >> >
> >> > Oh fucking bollocks! I meant to get some Renns for the R1, prior to
> >> > the IoM. Arse! Completely forgot. Cunt.
> >> >
> >> > I take it there are places on the IoM where one can have tyres fitted?
> >>
> >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/120-70ZR17-190...port-NEW-Tyres
> >> _W0QQitemZ300224837601QQihZ020QQcategoryZ21669QQtc ZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ
> >> _trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
> >
> > Fuck me that's cheap!
> >
> >> You can collect and the place next door[1] fit to loose wheels for 23
> >> quid staright away. I could meet you in Dunstable with paddock stands
> >> and tools if you're desperate.
> >
> > Thanks mate, but I think I've messed you about enough of late, and we
> > still have the loom to go
> >
> > If there's a decent ride-in, ride-out place near me (which I think Ogden
> > is saying there is), then I could do it Friday morning and then ride up
> > to Liverpool on them.
>
> Alternatively, there's the tyre depot I use which you could stop at enroute
> to scouseville.
>
> If you come off the M6 and onto the A5 then A483 I can meet you and show you
> where they are.

Ooh I like that idea too, as I don't think we've met have we?

I'll see if Ogden's mob have the Renns, then get back to you, if that's
ok ... given how crap I am at organising things like packing and travel
[1], it would be better for me if I could get them done first, here,
then meet you somewhere for a beer.

[1] I'm paid to organise people for a living, and seem to do pretty well
at it ... so why am I so utterly hopeless at sorting myself out?
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

In article <MPG.23160a12b2f46b619896ac@news.motzarella.org> , ogden
says...
> Bear wrote:

> > Have you used them before? Are they clue-worthy?
>
> I used them for tyres on my 7R and B12 and had no problems. Quick,
> cheap, always seem to have stock and always busy. I know WC's used
> them, as I bumped into him there one saturday a few years ago (iirc he
> fell off within minutes of riding away with new rubber) and I'm sure
> other UKRMers have too.

Sounds good.

> See other post re: Rennsports - not listed on the web site, so give
> them a call.

I shall do, many thanks.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport

Bear wrote:
> antonye says...
>
> > The tyres on the race bike are even worse! They went on for Assen
> > in 2006 (May I think) then did the rest of the season. I started
> > on them in 2007 and did about 4 rounds before being torpedoed
> > at Castle Combe in July. The next trackday was at Snetterton in
> > early 2008, then the two-dayer at Cadwell, and then I raced on
> > them at Brands in July and came 7th. Still plenty of wear left
> > on 'em!
>
> Kinell!
>
> <thinks>
>
> Maybe you're not trying hard enough

I am mighty impressed with them, but then there's also a few of
the "racers" [1] that insist on changing theirs for every race.
Which is nice 'cos they flog them on for about £50 a pair!

They are road tyres so they're meant to last, and it's not
like 62.5bhp is going to spin them on the rims either. I think
a decent suspension setup helps too.

[1] in the loosest sense of the word...

--
Antony

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:

>
>New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
>the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
>starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>
>What's the current hoop of choice?
>
>The RGV could be a little more interesting, as it weighs sod all and
>has old-skool sizes - 110/70 and 150/60, iirc. Michelin don't seem to
>do their 2CTs in those sizes.
>
>The floor is open...

I haven't a clue regarding what's best for the RGV but for the 750 I'd
say that any of the latest superbike tyres will be good.

I know that's the most useless piece of advice you'll ever get but
none of the big manufacturers will sell something shit in their
'flagship' range so it's down to whatever you like the look of.

I've got Dunlop Qualifier RRs fitted on my 10R but I've only done
about 50 miles on them so any reports (1) from me would be best left
until I return from the IoM. I had Michelin Pilot Power 2CT rear
matched up to a sticky as snot Michelin Sports Cup on the front prior
to that but you can't get those fronts any more so nothing to say on
that combination apart from that it worked well.

(1) First impression was that they're very good but I did manage to
get it to slide exiting a roundabout when the roads were damp.

10R + damp road + new tyres = small slide doesn't mean they're
potential killers.

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:46:08 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <jisna4tevjj690fuvurkd52htgm1k2cthr@4ax.com>, ginge says...
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:15:49 +0100, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <4frna4h96ekil2858r171ccghincrinull@4ax.com>, ginge says...
>> >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:04:03 +0100, ogden <ogden@pre.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >New boots required for both bikes. The Continental Whatevertheyares on
>> >> >the RGV have squared off and the 014s (I think) on the Gixer are
>> >> >starting to look a bit bare so it's time for me to go shopping.
>> >> >
>> >> >What's the current hoop of choice?
>> >>
>> >> My local tyre fitter is pushing Dunlop Qualifier RR's as the latest
>> >> cure for all ills.
>> >
>> >Andy Bonwick's got those hasn't he?
>>
>> I think so, yeah.
>>
>> I've got the non RR versions as factory fit, but they're just average.
>
>I won't buy Dunlops again, so it's all immaterial for me anyway

I remember, "Tyres of death!"

In article <d4f53472-8597-4542-88df-aa09a7a0e552@
59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, antonye says...

> They are road tyres so they're meant to last, and it's not
> like 62.5bhp is going to spin them on the rims either. I think
> a decent suspension setup helps too.

Agreed, especially the bit about suspension setup - when I fitted a
weight-matched Ohlins to the 9R it totally changed the way the bike
chewed tyres when on trackdays - previously, it chunked holy hell out of
the rear, as well as overheating it and generally fucking it up.
Afterwards, everything was much more even, bobbling-wise, with miles
less wear.
--
Bear
2002 Yamaha R1
Saab Aero Sport